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[-] FoundTheVegan@kbin.social 35 points 6 months ago

Had a homeless guy get right in my face and shouted UGLY!

I know that probably has more to do with his life than mine, but it's hard not to take it personally and wonder if it's what everyone else is too polite to say.

[-] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.de 4 points 6 months ago

It's, as you have already said, most likely an emotional issue on his side.

There is no such thing as "the beauty standard".

[-] FoundTheVegan@kbin.social 5 points 6 months ago

Well, yeah. I agree beauty is a flawed, racist, social construct that is just societal opinions in bulk. But money is also a fake social construct that has very real affects on everyday life. We can deconstruct the term "beauty" all night, but that doesn't change the lived reality of being called ugly having a real, genuine, hurtful effect on my self esteem.

[-] Taigagaai@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago

I cancelled to go to a thank you dinner that was organised for a thing I volunteer at. It was a few hours before and I was feeling really sick but up until that point I didn't think it was that bad. Most people in the group chat said to feel better soon but one of the organisers posted a whole thing about taking responsibility and informing at least two days beforehand since they weren't able to cancel for me with the restaurant last minute. I didn't say anything but that was really hurtful. As if I were choosing to be sick to inconvenience them??

[-] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 12 points 6 months ago

You don't plan out your illnesses by coordinating with the Virus Collective regarding which days they're allowed to infect you? That's incredibly irresponsible and you should be ashamed.

[-] SgtAStrawberry@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

I know, but my local one doesn't have any contact details and they refuse to reschedule. They are completely impossible to work with.

[-] Decoy321@lemmy.world 30 points 6 months ago

This is a good question! Honestly I can't even think of a time. Usually when someone says something insulting or hurtful, I just lose respect or consideration for them. After all, it says more about them than it does about me.

To add an example, I recently got told to "go back to my country you [lazy racial slurs]" by a MAGA loving shithead neighbor.

I was born here, and the old asshole who said it emigrated here less than a decade ago. It was a flabbergasting experience.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 14 points 6 months ago

I mean, that's just hilarious due to how absurd it is

[-] Raptor_007@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

My manager introduced me at a company picnic to the guy who hired him years ago. We no longer worked in his org, but he was still someone who my boss admired. The guy had already had a few drinks and reached out to shake my hand. On my way to shake his, he happened to glance at my badge (I forgot I even still had it on) and noticed I’m a contractor.

“Oh, you’re a contractor?” As he immediately withdraws his hand. “Are you at least working to go full-time?”

He literally never shook my hand. It’s been over a year and I don’t think I’ll ever forget that. What a dick.

[-] neutron@thelemmy.club 25 points 6 months ago

When I was told to get lost and go back to China because the pandemic reliefs were for the fellow countrymen.

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[-] CulturedLout@lemmy.ca 20 points 6 months ago

My husband recently said that I had a nice ass when I was younger, but currently it's "just something that happens to some women when they get older." I'm 40.

[-] gilokee@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

yikes, what a dick. btw, daily squats work wonders :p

[-] MonsieurArchi@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Ass is ass. I'd take any ass!

[-] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 4 points 6 months ago

Did you tell him you preferred when his balls didn't leave drag marks on the floor

[-] BugleFingers@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

I've only been offended at my work place once ever. I worked with another guy for years. We got along decently and I even went to bat against a senior in our company for him. When he retired he refused to shake my hand and my congratulations for retirement.

I still have no idea why he refused but that one got to me. I didn't even have bugle dust on my fingers!

[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 18 points 6 months ago

I used to be less-than-feeling-bothered about how a lot of people feel about my asexuality, I always thought it was just a simple hiccup in the science community, but over time let's just say the revelations have sunk in as disheartening. I've been a pariah because of it, it's the most common talking point when I see people jab at me, and even amongst acquaintances I'm told they're dismissive of anyone saying they're asexual.

Psychiatrists have told me it's a flaw of mine, family members would think of me suspicious for it, and when I later found out the acquaintances of mine (who I still consider friends to an extent) are into Jordan Peterson (you probably know where this is going), I though "maybe I can paraphrase this great genius in their presence to help my case", only to realize he is no genius and actually champions the idea of asexual dismissal. Pardon my French, but how hard is it to effing say "intimacy is NOT a given?"

Up until recently, asexuality hasn't had any widespread slurs, but the label "worthless" really does it when you want a deep connection just like everyone else. Recently however, some slurs have developed, though for obvious reasons you'll have to look them up, as this is Lemmy.

[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 16 points 6 months ago

Weird how sex is simultaneously taboo and expected of people.

[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

It's more like anything that deviates from how it normally works is considered contrary to the point of it all and thus that becomes taboo, i.e. the details of how you might like dressing up as authority figures to get the ball rolling.

Make no mistake, people in ancient times were fine starting the very first chapters of their scriptures with "and then the first man and first woman hit it off" which they no doubt relayed to people early in their upbringing.

[-] meekah@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I think a lot of people believe reproduction is a living being's only purpose.

[-] h3rm17@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

How does exactly Jordan Peterson dismiss asexuality there?

He is asked by someone self defining as asexual: how can I do to have kids, I have not felt sexual connections but want to create children with my wife.

Then he answers the questions, like "hey, if you really wanna do this, you can try this steps. Also, you can explore if you are really asexual (see, he acknowledges there asexual exists) or if maybe it has roots on something else, and you should explore that as well"

How is that dismissing, did I miss something?

If it is because something in the lines of "well, you cannot tell people they maybe arent what they identify as" then Ok i guess. I don't agree, I think a professional should explore all possibilities, especially when it is generaring discomfort to someone (as is the case with the person asking), but that's just my opinion.

If it's not in that line, I may have missed something.

[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

That's not quite what it is. She (the person who sent the letter) said that as an off-detail, she was asking how they might grow a family without physical connection, which is entirely possible. You don't need that in your family if you choose someone likeminded to you. Of course, though, Peterson doesn't read the whole letter, it's normal to do highlights with those.

There's also a bit of context. Sexuality is a large part of Peterson's teachings, though he takes an exclusively popular political approach to it. To give the most relevant example, in one of his most famous teachings, he put forward the notion that incels are a result of society casting them aside, with this in turn owing its context to the incel movement, which consists of people expressing angst over disproportionate relationship statistics. He has said this a few times, it arises out of ideals stemming from the sexual revolution and culminates today in seizing the means of reproduction, to use a double entendre. For this reason, incels and asexuals are diametrically adjacent on the "who do I please" spectrum.

So then this guy comes along, who many wonder if he's there just there to please, and then this woman asks the question in the letter. She never says "how do I be physical", she's asking "how do I find peace", and with the context in mind, his mindset becomes a real awakening (not in a good way). Unlike being an incel, asexuality is not only a way we're born as opposed to just some random identity, but it's also the natural state of things, to have a drive is not necessary for life to exist. Side note, adoption is never mentioned.

[-] BellyPurpledGerbil@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 months ago

My mother told me that she hated me. After a really dumb argument we had, as adults. I still talk to her and play nice in front of our siblings but I haven't forgiven her and I don't think I ever will. I lost a lot of love for my mother in a single day and then nothing anyone has said to me since has ever matched or beaten that feeling. How do you trump your own mother hating you? She moved on like she never said it. No apologies. Never mentioned it. You can call me every name and slur and hang me for all my fuckups and oddities, but you can't hurt me. I'm already at 0 HP emotionally

[-] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 18 points 6 months ago

Oof. Mine wrote me in a letter that she wasn't my mother anymore. Later pretended she never meant it. 20 years pass. Then she writes me a message saying I ruined my kid's life. I cut contact then. I still miss the friendly mom she sometimes was.

[-] Something_Complex@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

My mom wrote a similar letter with all that she thought of me. I picked it up and threw it out. Idc what it said there I never will. Bitch be even more self-centred then idk who, I have my flaws but I also know to try and not take it out on other (sometimes).

I don't think she evel will be able to

[-] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 5 points 6 months ago

Writing this kind of mean stuff, having the chance to re-read it, and then sending it anyway to ones own child is what gets me. Ugly things said in the heat of a discussion are not great, but to have the chance to sleep over it, think it through, and still going forward. Another level of mean.

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[-] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.de 4 points 6 months ago

I, in your stead, would fight back.

I seriously mean it. Drive up to her and explain her why she is such a stupid person. I guess that you will feel better then. It's important to always be honest, and that includes sometimes saying difficult truths.

[-] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 months ago

I have come to terms with the fact that some people are too damaged to be dealt with. Their perspective and handling of life and mine just diverge too much, and any effort spent trying to align these perspectives is bound to cause more hurt.

I think about contacting her so often. Once I got a birthday message from her sister, who she lives with. I mentioned the hurt and why I was not talking to my mother, and got back more of the same emotional abuse. Both aunt and mom are lost, out there with their anger and bitterness, and it's not my job to retrieve them, as much as I would like to.

The fact she turned into a literal nazi in just a few decades (thank you facebook) doesn't help the situation.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

In real life or....? I'm insulted pretty much daily on here by some dipshit or another. In reality? Less. But as a queer person living in an area full of conservatives I overhear "faggot" said a lot. Generally not at me, but it's still offensive and it makes me uncomfortable being around people who yell it at random people on the street as they drive by.

[-] skybreaker@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I'm out of the loop. What does "removed" mean?

[-] Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 months ago

You ran into a slur filter. The word that gets shown as removed is the one used for bundles of sticks and sometimes can refer to cigarettes in the UK.

[-] skybreaker@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Oh, thanks. I was super confused

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

So was I because I don't see it that way on my instance. It was the F word. Not fuck.

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[-] halloween_spookster@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Many times by my mom. Recently in reference to me balding, she said "you look like a <family name>, that's too bad". It was so bad even my dad did a double take.

[-] vivavideri@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

As a marginalized person, it tends to occur more often than not; but, it's not like that's necessarily unusual.

[-] HiddenLychee@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

There's a comment here that would say that's a you problem. Must be nice, not having your Identity be a matter of political "disagreement" for people.

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[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Back when I was in high school, a friend of mine introduced me to his friend. This kid, knowing that I'm Jewish, started to go on a rant ending with "the only thing Hitler did wrong was not finishing the job!"

Him saying that me and my family should be killed for the "crime" of being Jewish... Well, offended seems too light of a word. I blew right past offended and landed in ANGERED.

Now, usually, I'm a pretty relaxed guy. I typically don't get angry even if I should. But this made me want to punch the guy right in his Hitler loving face. My friend had to hold me back.

(And before anyone asks, this wasn't the kid being "edgy" or trolling me to get a reaction. He actually worshipped Hitler and thought he was a great man.)

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

How was it going to highschool with Trump?

[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Hey, I may feel old, but I'm not THAT old! Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to yell at some kids to get off my lawn.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

be careful of the stairs, You don't want to have to go through another hip surgery.

[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

I had a girlfriend, and for a short time a wife, who was really religious. That's fine, but she had a real problem with the fact I wasn't religious, and she wouldn't remove herself from my life, no matter how many times I told her that it wasn't going to work.

She would tell me that I wasn't a complete human because I wasn't religious.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

whats that one religious group that sends women out to pick up men to basically convert them?

Thats what this sounds like.

[-] GCanuck@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Challenge accepted.

[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I doubt she was part of some organized group. But I don't know what the issue was.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I mean, thats the whole point.. Not knowing they're doing it..

They arent going up to you to say "Hey, convert to my religion and i'll let you touch my boob"

[-] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Dick, meet crazy.

[-] LifeOfChance@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

I have it happen far to often unfortunately but for me when I tell someone how I am feeling and they respond "no you dont" or "I don't think you do" completely dismissing my feelings all together.

[-] Jumi@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I don't care about the opinion of people I wouldn't ask for advice

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