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Why should I be scared? Bribes being taken and acted on is nothing new. Indeed in today's world its more normal than ever.

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Purchase car abroad then have it imported. How feasible would something like that be?

[–] just2look@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You can't license an imported car for US roads. At least not in any practical way. If you had unlimited funds it is possible, but not really worthwhile.

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Confused as ive seen tons of the Kei trucks on US roads with plates

[–] just2look@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There may be some loopholes I'm unaware of, but I didn't think you could license kei trucks either. I know some people get them for private use though.

[–] mbfalzar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago

The loophole you're unaware of is that cars over 24 years old are exempt from the testing that needs to be done before a car can be considered legal to drive. People are just importing those ones and driving them

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 86 points 1 week ago (34 children)

Being an American wanting an electric car must be a nightmare!
Not many options, and all of them are too expensive, because competition is stifled by keeping competition out with insane tariffs.

In Europe we are spoiled with choice, lots of European brands with lots of models, and we even have American although we don't want them, but we also have Chinese although they do have an EU import tax, to compensate for the Chinese subsidies.

But several Chinese brands are becoming quite popular, especially BYD and XPeng have become popular here in Denmark.

[–] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

AFAIK Slate auto is a cheap piece of crap. But AFAIK it's not available yet, so we don't really know.
In Denmark we have 16 car models available below $25k USD. None of them as ugly as the Slate.

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Yeah, it's extremely frustrating here. The EV market actively sucks with limited options and inflated prices. I also bought a used Polestar 2 last year, so now I'm extra frustrated.

My guess, however, is that PS just didn't care to deal with obtaining the waiver- the brand has sold poorly here in the US and they've been posturing to exit the market for a few years.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I wasn’t even aware they were selling in the US. I used to pay attention since they seemed to have compelling vehicles, but never here and never affordable

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yeah I absolutely love my P2, but they sold terribly in the US. Compared to a Tesla model 3 (which are unfortunately still super popular despite Musk), it was nicer but with les range and around twice the stocker price. Polestar struggled to really position themselves here successfully, imo, but they aren't a particularly high volume brand in other places either.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

For some reason Polestar doesn't seem to be doing as well as it deserves in many markets.
I hope you can have yours maintained as long as is required even if they leave the market.

It was a runner up when we bought our EV.

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (15 children)

If they're priced the same as the US models, it's little wonder they're not selling well. MSRP for the P2 was ~70k USD which is a non-starter for most folks.

I got mine used at 4 years old with 74k miles on it (fortunately EVs generally tend to last towards 200k miles barring any other issues) for 20k, it's the only reason I could afford to buy it. Otherwise I was probably going to go with an ID.4 which was at a similar price point. What did you end up going with?

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Here in Denmark a Polestar 2 is just below $50,000 excluding VAT but including all other taxes.
Competition in USA is absolutely destroyed by crazy tariffs.

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[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

It’s gets better. Even if you find an EV, the states tax you more than an ICE car. Texas has a $200 yearly fee to supposedly make up for lost gas tax revenue. But at 20c/gallon and assuming 30mpg, I’d have to drive 30,000 miles to offset that cost (only drove about 8,500 miles per year).

And now they want to do the same at the Federal level with another $150 tax (federal taxes are 18c/gallon), which would be another 25,000 miles.

So I would be taxed $350/year to offset “gas tax losses”, which would only even out for me if I were to drive 55,000 miles in a year.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (12 children)

I heard about that, and that's crazy. You gotta love all that freedom. 🤥
I don't drive nearly that much either.
I understand the logic of the tax on gas to pay for roads, but here an EV is taxed less because it pollutes less. USA needs more of that.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I understand the logic of the tax on gas to pay for roads

But even that doesn’t really hold up. Gas tax depending on state, generally covers less than half of road maintenance and is already unfair because of hybrids and other efficient vehicles.

And the bulk of the damage is probably from big trucks anyway

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[–] sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.io 52 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm getting so tired of reading fucking "that should terrify you!" In headlines. We are all sufficiently fucking terrified shut the fuck up.

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Just that type of headline that tells you how you should feel period. Thank you headline, I'm now annoyed. It's never any other emotion youre trying to force on me, just irritation or rage. That and the whole 'read that again'. Fuck off.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago

Exactly. Just give me the fucking facts and I'll decide how I feel about it.

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This is proof that you should never bend the knee or try to appease that facist state. Polestar moved production to the US and still got banned. They don't believe in non-zero sum economics, you will always be the loser even when both party's could win.

[–] pageflight@piefed.social 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The U.S. Department of Commerce’s Bureau of Industry and Security denied Polestar an authorization under the current Connected Vehicle Rule to sell cars in the U.S. from model year 2027 on. That’s because Polestar is a subsidiary of Geely, a Chinese automaker. Ironically, Polestar’s sister brand, also owned by Geely, Volvo, was granted the authorization in May.

What's the Connected Vehicle Rule? From the Bureau of Industry and Security (is that a thing?):

On January 14, 2025, the U.S. Department of Commerce’s Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS) issued a rule restricting the import and sale of certain connected vehicles and related hardware/software linked to China or Russia. BIS determined these transactions pose national security risks, as companies from these countries may be compelled to share data or allow remote access to connected vehicles in the United States.

So, the reported ban seems capricious, but I wouldn't mind one solution: stop making cars connected. The key fob uses its local protocol for lock/unlock and remote start, my phone uses bluetooth for charge controls and status, and there's a scren that uses Android Auto. Car companies stop trying to write UX and network stacks.

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yea but then they couldn't harvest and sell your data

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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Arbitrary actions are arbitrary.

I'm not terrified by that, just disgusted.

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's not arbitrary, as your second paragraph suggests there are other reasons. Someone didn't pay off the administration. It really is like that.

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[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Why in the fuck can't I purchase a non connected vehicle?

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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Me looking at my 2023 Polestar 2 LRDM:

"It's ok. They can't hurt you. You parked next to a 240i and you felt superior remember?"

That's me looking at my BST 270 😂

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Start selling Volvo's newest model... The Volvo Polestar

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