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[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 25 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (4 children)

"European restaurants pay staff like any other profession and workers don’t rely on tips, so customers assume they’ve already paid for service".

Europeans are right on this one. The more years go by, the more I find tipping to be ridiculous. Tell me upfront what you expect, then I'll choose where to eat. Managers must adapt to customers, not us do their paying practice.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 13 hours ago

~~fighting back~~ doubling down on near slavery conditions when confronted with their bullshit

FTFY

Fuck everything about tipping, tipping must be prohibited by law

[–] Thrife@feddit.org 26 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Greetings from Europe, we're not baffled. We just don't play your game. Start paying your workers properly.

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[–] Tarambor@lemmy.world 25 points 20 hours ago (7 children)

We come from nations where staff get paid at least the minimum wage and don't rely on tips to make it up to that.

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[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

lmao NY Post getting pissy over what they call barbarians not leaving tips.

Ignoring the reality the unwritten rule of tipping for exceptional service was taken over by the restaurants and turned the gesture into a formality serving the owners, and the waiters now get gypped below minimum wage.

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[–] huey_m@reddthat.com 8 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Way too many people in here speaking for "Europe". I live in Europe as well, and here tipping at a restaurant or a delivery driver is 100% expected. It isn't usually as much as the US, but tipping exists here as well.

Also, when in Rome... plenty of people here get upset at Americans for not following cultural norms, seems fair to get upset at people visiting America for not doing the same.

[–] YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

We tip if we go out for a family meal and the service is good, which it almost always is. If it's not, then no tip. The wage is, by law, nearly $17 an hour, so they get paid regardless, and if they do a good job, they get more. I was a waiter in Edinburgh, and it was clear to me that the more attentive I was, the better chances I had of a tip. It was the incentive. I was a student at the time and had other student colleagues who brought their moods to the table and were annoyed when they got little to no tip.

However, if I was in the US where they basically need the tips to earn a living wage then I'd always tip.

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Maybe if the US paid a decent minimum wage...

[–] SunshineJogger@feddit.org 29 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Yea, because tipping is intended to be optional.

The mere fact of trying to pressure or force the tipping will make sure I regard the service as not tip worthy.

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[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 7 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

There is a no tipping culture in Europe.

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[–] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 27 points 1 day ago

Imagine the price being.. You know.. The price...

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago

Everyone who gives their life to a job deserves a living wage.

[–] melfie@lemmy.zip 5 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

“Tipflation” is the worst part. It’s annoying as hell when staff tell you the terminal or kiosk is going to “ask you a question” and the fucking thing asks for a tip while they’re staring right at you. It’s gaslighting people into questioning whether to tip for something that typically wouldn’t require a tip, and whether you should tip to avoid having your food spat on, etc. Then the suggested tip percentages are often inflated and if you want to tip lower, you have to fumble around with the “other” button while they continue to stare. I’d say vote with your wallet, but every place does this now.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

The other night the bar I was at had a minimum tip selection of 25%. My friend expressed admiration for the fact that every time I got out my phone calculator to manually enter 20%.

I live in America, I understand that 20% is expected, but I was raised on 10-15-20% for bad-good-excellent service. The fact that the percentage expected keeps going up is a hill I'll die on. I'm not tipping 30 fucking percent. And it's even more egregious that I've seen this crap happen in cities where tipped workers make a fair minimum wage. Yeah some places tipped workers are making $2 something an hour, but where they're making $20/hr I'm not going to feel guilted into giving 25%.

Bah abolish tipping completely. Not just for food workers but all workers. Charge me what it fucking costs.

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