100%. Following Chris-Chan a bit in my teens around 2010, seeing that video of Drachenlord proposing to that girl pretending to be his girlfriend only to get relentlessly mocked for it, and finding out about the sad hive of Cinemassacre "Truthers" deriving entertainment from hate watching James Rolfe/AVGN instead of just moving on with their lives taught me all I needed to know about how sad and bullying adjacent lolcow culture is.
It's always conservatives and libs engaging with it too. Go figure.
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It is very pathetic to me. Like is there nothing better they can do? Just enjoy life idk play a game even learn something just do anything except that. I never understood it. Like if i told anyone close to me that i hatewatch someone and explained what it means, i would get weird looks, justifibly so.
I think it's bad and think it's even more pathetic some people spend their time watching a livestream of this person just to "clipfarm" them for internet points that hold no value
well...i have to admit that i like sometimes reading some articles in places like kiwifarms or sonichu.com because there's people kinda pintoresque that otherwise i'd never know. i'm kinda acknowledge the archival part of their mission for showing people that abusing your mother is not a good idea, trying to "seduce" women using sweaty tank tops with "date with me" written with sharpie, and act like a nazi when you'd probably be a victim of aktion t4 are good teachings
the lolcow "culture" is the issue: there's antisocial people who enjoy making suffer people just for their amusement, and sites like kiwifarms are currently filled with transphobic people, because they're traumatized that keffals almost make them bite the dust
I have an experience with being abused in a certain community by a person who later got lolcowed there for other stuff. Them being a lolcow didn't help me at all.
- Part of community that considered them a lolcow minimized their abusive behavior and its impact on me.
- Part of community that didn't participate in that was conditioned to see them as a victim rather than an abuser and pushes me away.
Wrong criticism can easily distract from deserved criticism.
Like criticism of Harry Potter from position of religious fundamentalism protected it from legitimate criticism of neoliberal bullshit it feeds children with.
9/10 times its just thinly veiled ableism or homophobia dressed up in a plausibly deniable new coat of paint, to not socially ostracize them.
I've broken up with someone over this, found out they where a regular on kiwifarms and talked to them about it, they just doubled down.
Cya!
i think one of the saddest parts of lolcow culture is that, 9 times out of 10, the subject of mockery has no choice but to pander to the whims of their bullying audience due to being homeless, disabled, or otherwise materially desperate. what social support they do have access to is usually sabotaged by the lolcow audience as much as possible. it is incredibly cruel.
I only became aware of Kiwifarms after the protest started by that Canadian transgender person (I think she is a streamer). I really don't like how sites like Kiwifarms are allowed to exist.
Ahh nevermind
Keffals! Separately she's not the best person, but obviously she didn't deserve that treatment (bc generally speaking average people don't deserve that, even people who are bad in sort of an average way)
Agreed. Lolcow culture has always been garbage that attracts the worst people. There's a reason one of the biggest examples of it turned into one of the most toxic websites currently active.
Yeah it is inherently reactionary and gross
I was only vaguely aware this is a thing. Having read through the thread, I'm sad to have found a new way to be disgusted with the cultural habits people can come up with. Though I'm tempted to say something like anti-culture instead because this definitely sounds like organized anti-social behavior. What is even the material benefit? Is the link to ableism because the goal is to push people who are "different" down, lest they be normalized as a regular person? Is it some sociopaths doing random sadism?
I guess I'm trying to do the scientific socialist thing and understand the cause.
yeah i actually stopped posting here for like 3 days cause i got into some bullshit and i started getting paranoid about being exposed, its quite a big thing on the internet but im happy to see this many people unaware of it and i will take it as a sign to just detox from it
lolcow culture is just the super-spreader vector for fascist rhetoric.
i remember this plus sized lady got bullied for wearing cow print and her commentors told her not do it, like people have no whimsy at all.
I agree. Infinte gulags upon everyone who partakes in it.
What is lolcow culture?
A lolcow is a person who has attracted an internet following for being weird (typically due to a mental disability) in public. What then makes them a lolcow is that they haven't developed proper self awareness or a detachment between their public persona and private life, and some group of people has decided to gather around them more to "see what weird shit they'll do next" than to be genuine fans of whatever work they do or content they produce.
What isn't a Lolcow? Chuck Tingle. He's almost definitely a weirdo in real life too, but there's a clear separation between the real person and the character, and he's aware he's performing a bit. The same could be said for most "WoWeEeEewee!"-screaming vocal stim ticktockers who gather a following for acting like they are mentally challenged but who most are doing it purposefully because that's the sort of content that sells well, for some reason.
Ngl, I hate fan of both these things. lol
The same could be said for most "WoWeEeEewee!"-screaming vocal stim ticktockers who gather a following for acting like they are mentally challenged
Incredible sentence
a lolcow is a person, usually suffering from mental illness, which is used as a laughing stock by fellow internet users, which encourage the sufferer to engage in more risky and humiliating behavior for yheir entertainment. iirc Chris-Chan was considered a lolcow
Sounds absolutely horrible. Seems like I was lucky to never encounter such shit.
yeah, i feel horrible any time i see a lolcow
it's basically paying a desperate person to publicly humiliate yhemselves
Sounds like a modern day freak show.
I'm gonna assume you're a German speaking person due to your username for the examples I'm giving. Drachenlord. Someone like that is a lolcow. Its when you make fun of a person for various reasons but usually making fun of the person regardless if their actions are meant to be funny. Its basically the online equivalent of laughing behind a classmates back who you pretend to be friends with. Another instance would be especially in the German space would be Timgioh.
In short Someone who is easy/safe for the majority of people to mock. Its a cash cow but you instead milk "lols" from it
I'm gonna assume you're a German speaking person due to your username
I'm actually not (although I can speak a little German), I'm just a mathematician, but thanks.
are drachenlord and timgioh disabled
I think drachenlord is openly bisexual, likely some sort of neurodivergent. But there was some controversy over him liking kids or something which was used to justify his hate but don’t quote me on that.
omg i completely forgot about drachenlord
I'm okay with it when it's not punching down.
There was a wealthy lifestyle guru who made rounds on Bluesky a year or so ago. His whole shtick was showing off his "daily routine" and linking this to his "success" and became an instant lolcow for a video he made. Just about every frame there was something ridiculous to pick apart from breaking up a banana to eat it piece by piece instead of eating it normally and then rubbing the peel on his face, to jumping in the pool after exercising without taking a shower first, to needing his girl to make him breakfast and cut his food for him, to doing laps in a pool that wasn't made for laps, to inconsistent time stamps (jumps off a diving board but doesn't land in the pool until 3 minutes later), to a very obviously fake scene where he was allegedly trading stocks and calling this "work", to running on a treadmill so fast and aggressively that it wasn't stamina efficient and looked more like he was running away from a bear than actually exercising, among many other moments meant to make him look more impressive than he was.
The whole video was basically him saying if you live like him you can be as successful as he is. It was very obviously nonsense; that wasn't his daily routine, he did not live his life like that. It was just a complete performance meant to con people and he got ruthlessly ratio'd across the site for it. That, in my view, is what a lolcow should be. Mocking people with disabilities is just bullying.
i get this, but usually the victims of becoming lolcows are the people that are either: 1.sufferers of a mental illness or are seen as generally "weird" or "unusual" by the internet 2. financially dependent on being lolcows, and thus have to purpetuate their own humiliation to make end's meat. The victims are usually people that cannot afford to defend themselves, or are unable to understand that they are being bullied and harassed
Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm not down with that kind of harassment.
The specific example I used was a guy who clearly had money and privilege already and was some kind of lifestyle influencer and was being mocked for his insincerity/grift. That I'm okay with because people like that deserve scorn, not disabled/ill people who need help and empathy.
oh oki then i understand ^^ ty
yeah i have no problem with the bourgeoisie getting bullied.
another issue though is that many lolcows become quite well off due to the ridicule they face online and their audience uses this as an excuse to further bully them when they are nowhere near that class
Yeah, nah, that I don't fuck with. Them making money of their ridicule is totally different from them being well-off & privileged from the start.