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I bought Plex pass years ago for £79. The new price of $749.99 is INSANE.

No wonder all the cool people are using Jellyfin.

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[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 77 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Been on jellyfin since day one. Works fine, UI is great and gets the job done. TV UI maybe not top notch, buy usable. Mobile UI just fine and usable.

Also, exposed on the internet (reverse proxy, OIDC, https the works) for years now with zero issues whatsoever as well .

There are a few users always throwing thrash on jellyfin, maybe pissed off users that paid for Plex, or Plex shills that like to denigrate jellyfin, I don't know.

Just ignore them.

Jellyfin is perfectly usable, yes you need to setup port forward, VPN or whatever, but it's exactly our target audience so move along and stop bitching, Plex shills.

Stay with Plex, use jellyfin, whatever fit your bill.

Anyway plex does not fit my concept of self hosting to be free from cloud lock ins.

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

If you're on Android TV (I guess Fire TV works as well), try out Wholphin. It's miles ahead of the official TV app. Also, Findroid works great on mobile.

[–] BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

How am I just learning about wholfin now? They need to add that to the third party clients list on the main site because at a glance that's easily top 3 best looking jellyfin clients

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[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 7 points 1 month ago

Wholphin

thank you for the suggestion, will try it out! I am using a Fire Stick

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[–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 month ago

I happened to setup jellyfin when i had first heard about it while I was already hosting plex, so when plex decided to charge for remote streaming years later I was already halfway there.

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[–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 57 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I tried Plex once, before I knew about jellyfin. I just wanted an open-source self-hostable media server with my own media.

When I tried it, after installing Plex, I was presented with a login for a Plex hosted account. Iirc that was optional and I skipped it, after that came the nags for Plex pass. Piss off. That's exactly the opposite of what I wanted out of something like jellyfin.

[–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 22 points 1 month ago (24 children)

Oh yeah and apparently you can't stream remotely without a subscription either? If it were a feature they had to spend time on I'd still not want to use it, but I'd understand at least.

From the application's point of view, there is no difference between internet and intranet access. I just saw that downloading the media you already own, using your own infrastructure, requires an even more expensive subscription.

How tf did people stick around with this shit for so long.

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[–] Rudee@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Was any justification provided for a nearly 10x price increase!?

Glad I started with Jellyfin

[–] dan@upvote.au 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

It's because lifetime licenses aren't sustainable. I'm surprised they still offer it.

Plex is an actual company that has an office and employees, so they have recurring costs every month. A lot of people already have lifetime licenses that they're not likely to receive any more revenue from. It's likely they're increasing the price to help recoup costs or convince people to subscribe to a monthly subscription rather than get a lifetime license.

[–] Banzai51@midwest.social 14 points 1 month ago

Nah, they increased the cost to drive people to the monthly subscription. I'm guessing in a year or two they'll announce the lifetime subs have been revoked and everyone needs a monthly sub.

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[–] fbn@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 month ago
[–] whereitsat@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 month ago (8 children)

who is this for?

those unicorn users who make 150k++ a year and pirate all their media and then wanna share it with their friends that they don't have?

[–] whereitsat@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 month ago

travelling salesmen who pirate all their media??

[–] inverted_deflector@startrek.website 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

To be fair there are plenty of users who rip their own media. But sentiment stands

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[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I do wonder if this is a last ditch effort cash grab before they go under or a "we really thought we'd be acquired by now so now we have to plan ahead" move.

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You know that wouldn't be the last time they try to get money out of you, either.

[–] homes@piefed.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

After 16 years of having a lifetime pass (and nearly 20 years of administering multiple Plex servers), I know this to be false. And, unless you have one yourself, you could not possibly know. Especially because, with a lifetime pass, there’s no other way that could possibly ask for money from a user. It’s literally impossible.

But, if I’m wrong, show proof of your lifetime pass, and the solicitous emails you received subsequently. I know you can’t.

If you’re going to speak from such obvious ignorance, it should be easy to admit when you’re wrong

Most Lemmy users, however, never find such a thing so easy…

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

I think it's more that they're implying the company is likely to get worse in the future and start trying shit, not what they've already experienced. The price now being nearly 10x what it once was is a pretty big red flag, after all.

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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] kungen@feddit.nu 7 points 1 month ago (10 children)

How about when they "accidentally" sent that email to all your users saying that they NEED to buy Plex Pass to continue to use remote streaming? Or when they had that "bug" in the app shortly after that, where remote streaming would give an error message saying that need to buy Plex Pass to stream your content?

Maybe they don't solicit from you, but they use dark tactics to trick your users, and that's not acceptable in my opinion.

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[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Lifetime single pay subscriptions don’t make financial sense at all for a company. As much as I hate subscriptions, it’s the only way to get long term support, which software needs.

[–] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If Jellyfin can fill most Plex features for most people, maybe it’s not that they need to charge money to survive. Maybe it’s that their product value proposition has eroded.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Certainly, but open source projects rely too heavily on the goodwill of volunteers who still need to feed their families. Hopefully Jellyfin’s incoming users contribute to the project.

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[–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 9 points 1 month ago

They managed years without going to a subscription model. This is about shareholder needs not software upkeep.

[–] jackmaoist@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

But Plex's subscription plan is also priced like shit. Netflix is like 2$/month, Debrid is 3$ while plex is 10$ for me.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Where in the world do you get Netflix for $2?

[–] chinaski@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

India, Bangladesh, plenty of Asian countries. I was using a vpn to pay for netflex through Bangladesh. A $25 plan in the US was $3.23 there. Its all a scam.

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[–] e461h@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago

Jellyfin is always free, works great, and keeps getting better!

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

I like jellyfin

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You'll retain your existing lifetime pass, fwiw. This is just price gouging new customers.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Even now - at the peak point of the Memory/SSD price bubble - about 1/3 of that lifetime pass buys you enough dedicated hardware to do it yourself for at least the next decade, probably more.

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Wait what. $750? I think I paid like $100 years ago. Damn.

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[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago

Hey guess what software I don't need to use

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