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"The concern you have as a prosecutor is that public support is going to make it into the jury room," said Richard Schoenstein, a legal analyst and defense attorney.

"There definitely are people out there who assume this defendant committed the crime, but support him in doing so," he said.

"There are some students who believe he is absolutely a justified vigilante ... against this system, the American healthcare system, that they think is unjust."

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[–] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 48 points 3 days ago (3 children)

He didn't do it but if he did, I support him more than any American politician or businessman in history

[–] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago

It really annoyed me how everyone was cheering him on from day one when it was pretty obviously he was just set up. But yes, if he did do it obviously it was an objectively good thing an jury nullification is cool.

I know people love a good folk hero icon but especially now I think it's extremely obvious he was not the shooter.

Now that opens up a more interesting question: If not him, then who did it and why? Obviously there are millions of Americans with motive and means, and thousands with opportunity, but the hit looked very professional. My real theory is that it wasn't necessarily an ideological killing at all and that he was just a ghoul that probably fucked over and pissed off another wealthy person that could afford a job like that.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 20 points 3 days ago

Couldn't of said it better myself, this man is a true American hero.

[–] moss_icon@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

He is the most obvious patsy of all time. Blows my mind how many people instantly assume he was the actual killer. There was a literal scandal in the Altoona police department a few months after Luigi got arrested because they were caught abusing a suspect.

[–] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago

He is the most obvious patsy of all time.

Lee Harvey Oswald was a Former marine that worked on the U2 spy program with the CIA. He tried to renounce his citizenship in the USSR. Got back into the states no problem. He seemed to have no idea what he was being charged with the first time he saw the press. He later called himself a patsy, and was murdered on live TV by mobster.

Yeah, I'm giving this one to Oswald. (No disrespect to Luigi and his innocence)

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Evan Clarkson, an assistant professor at Utah Valley University who has studied the phenomenon of Mangione's popular support, says he began his research after many of his students told him they felt "conflicted" about Mangione's alleged crimes.

What a remarkable choice of experts here.

[–] deforestgump@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wait, isn't that the place where Charlie got Kirk'd?

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago

It's a sizable university in its own right, but still, it's 1 out of 100 in comparable size and 1 out of 300 in universities that could feasibly have a scholar like that.

I think someone at NPR left an easter egg.

[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 44 points 3 days ago

Accused of what? Making the world a better place ?

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 42 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The concern you have as a prosecutor is that public support is going to make it into the jury room

Oh no how terrible.

[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 46 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In a democracy, shouldn’t public support be included in the jury room? In fact, isn’t that the point of a jury?

[–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 45 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

To be clear I more mean this as evidence the U.S. isn’t a democracy and not a naive “But why wouldn’t you want that?”

[–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 days ago

For sure, I was just emphasizing your words for clarity and wit

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 34 points 3 days ago

that just means the prosecutor didn't do a good enough job stacking the jury with klansmen who hate italians.

populism in the jury is only as good as the population and it's a disaster when the jurors are racist transphobes etc

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 36 points 3 days ago (2 children)

There are some students who believe he is absolutely a justified vigilante

Actually he was at my house playing Mario Kart.

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 25 points 3 days ago

I firmly believe he did not commit the murder, and I also firmly believe he mains Toad.

He didn't play Waluigi?

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 32 points 3 days ago

he didn't do it, obviously. so, he's just plain not guilty.

the killer was an angel from heaven which has so far evaded capture by the armies of powerful men.

[–] HandsHeartEyes@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago

Prosecutors are the most aggrieved whiners in all of society.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] miz@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)