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[–] BigTuffAl@lemmy.zip 22 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Pretending tokens have cash value in the first place makes you a mark

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 18 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Well, when you use tokens you are using energy. The token doesn't have value in and of itself. But that basically becomes a conversation of "what value does currency have".

In a material sense. Tokens are just a reflection of compute cost. You could have a literal person sitting in a room doing math problems each time you spend a "token". You would be paying for the value of the "computer". That labor has value.

In this sense the tokens are being spent on an extremely inefficient computation to yield text on a screen that may or may not be helpful to the user. But, the cost of that text generation is in the labor to extract oil, to extract minerals and rare earth metals, water infrastructure, electric infrastructure. Even for the labor of the software developers that build the AI systems.

Paying for a token is just paying for that labor value. The token represents that in the same way currency does.

Now, we can all use currency to buy mud pies. Our current economy being built up on mud pies doesn't mean there is no value. Currently we value mud pies. The mud pies might not have actual material use or value. But, currently we are puting tons of labor and resources into building those mud pies. Those resources and labor have value. That's where the tokens cost is derived from; even if the tokens just give us mud pies in return.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Best reason I've ever seen to sign up. 🤣 🤣 🤣

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 14 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You have to actually use it though, and that helps increase the company's imaginary value, and hurts the environment.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

"If there was a button that bankrupted a bunch of assholes but added tons of carbon to the atmosphere every time you pressed it, etc." is a fun thought experiment, but not so much fun in reality

[–] SoloCritical@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

How much does it cost them if I use the free version to its maximum potential?

[–] sorter_plainview@lemmy.today 8 points 22 hours ago

So here is the problem. What these companies are doing is trying to sustain the company until the computing cost comes down. In other words, as time passes these companies thinks that the capital cost will come down for data centers, and operarional cost can be covered through subscription cost.

These so called rich investors will do their best to keep the bubble from bursting. I felt there was a coordinated effort from wall street to prevent the GameStop shorting to do more damage. Similar things are going on related to AI is what I feel.

Movements like occupy wall street, infact occupy every such abomination around the world is what we need. Eat.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

A KitKat is 2 dollars, a box of 40 is 30 dollars. Walmart is losing 10 dollars each time you buy a box!!!!!

[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 6 points 23 hours ago

hey, ChatGPT. Write me a script that wastes as OpenAI as much money as possible on my subscription.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 2 points 19 hours ago

Sounds like an enormous waste of money and resources...

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

best business ever

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

They make it up in volume…