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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 85 points 1 month ago (5 children)

That almost certainly has nothing to do with storage and instead is about frequency of shooting.

People that have one gun locked in safe that never gets open, aren't shooting it.

Someone doing a weekly range trip is going to bring home a bunch of lead dust regardless of how they store the gun.

We really need to get away from lead in firearms

[–] Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We also really need to normalize lead management. When I went shooting in scouts as a kid I learned all the responsible gun operation saftey stuff, but never even thought about the lead exposure till I was an adult

I'd never even heard of de-leading products for getting yourself cleaned up after shooting until devant ollam on YouTube talked about them in passing in a video

(great channel by the way, it's hard to find any folks who talk about guns online that a turbo chud)

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Sorry I misspelled deviant lol

https://youtube.com/@deviantollam He's mostly big in the physical security world and has a lot of crossover with hacker community stuff, but regularly talks firearms. Cool dude, hes on mastodon

If you want another cool leftwing guntuber tacticool girlfriend was rad, she doesnt do YouTube anymore but still has a whole backlog of videos and is a transfem immigrant who always had a perspective on guns I appreciated

Deviant ollam also mentions a handful of others in his super old video on preparedness (I believe its this one https://youtu.be/6ihrGNGesfI), which if you see his videos on his friend Kara (transfem hacker friend of his currently in federal prison), if I remember right thats also the video where he gives the back story needed to follow the updates on how she's doing

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Link to the specific video about de-leading?

[–] Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip 2 points 1 month ago

Sorry, I think he just mentioned he thought it was cool seeing some de-leading products at Shot Show

I don't remember the video (it probably would have been one of his "best and worst of shot show" videos) and it wasn't really a guide or anything, so much as just him talking about his experience at the convention and more de-leading products getting visibility being something he thought was positive

[–] Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip 2 points 1 month ago

Just wanted to add someone elsewhere in the thread mentioned jaredAF having good videos on the subject

I'm not familiar with the channel but figured it might be worth mentioning in case you're looking for resources and didn't see it mentioned :)

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Copper for slugs, while more expensive has a risk level close to 0 in comparison to lead. It also has excellent ballistic properties and will expand properly with designs like hollow points

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Tungsten, too.

The problem is really the cost. To go to the range and spend $30 would instead cost $150. I think the average person would buy the lead.

I'll ask a friend of mine who worked at a range recently to see what people are spending.

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 7 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Per friend: -$35 a person $12 for the second and ammo varies wildly. They start about $20/$30 a box for 9mm 50 rounds, but most people use 1/2 boxes ler trip"

Also, per them, tungsten is a no-no due to its armor-piercing abilities.

[–] rljkeimig@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

$20 for 50 rounds of 9mm is exceptionally high. 20-25 cents per round for target ammo is closer to reality. https://ammoseek.com/ammo/9mm-luger

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's probably the cost buying from the range. Might also be regional. I'm going to keep replying to myself.

[–] mote@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

It is, the ranges mark up the ammo (what business doesn't) as they sell small quantities to a captive audience who will pay. Ammoseek represents the other end of the spectrum, ppl buying wholesale in larger quantities. Not represented are the hand loaders, typically sports-oriented going through a thousand a week in practice buying components at cost.

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[–] punkfungus@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

It's actually not the projectile that causes most of the lead exposure for shooters. It's the cartridge primers, they use lead styphnate for their explosive. Copper bullets are mainly to not spread lead through the environment where it can harm wildlife, and to avoid the risk of consuming lead in shot animals.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago

Sounds expensive

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[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why not just get rid of firearms completely?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Yeah, this is America (Woo, ayy)

Guns in my area (Word, my area)

I got the strap (Ayy, ayy)

I gotta carry 'em

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYOjWnS4cMY

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[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

Proper gun regulations will reduce lead in children, as well.

[–] DougPiranha42@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

Or, cognitive impairment from lead poisoning leads to unsafe gun storage.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (6 children)

They were measuring lead in infants under 36 months old.

Are you suggesting toddlers are losing their ability to safely store firearms or did you just not read the article?

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I mean, have you ever seen a baby properly store a firearm? Exactly.

E: ban all babies! Ban all babies!

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

TBF I've never seen a baby improperly store a firearm either.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

The last guy didn't live to tell the tale.

Are babies blood-thirsty murders? More at 10.

[–] DougPiranha42@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

It was a joke. But lead is in the environment. If toddlers are exposed to it, chances are the parents are too.

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[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, my first thought was also that they had the causal relationship backwards.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

in children

No there are multiple parties at play. The infants being exposed to lead are not the ones failing to store the guns correctly.

[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They researchers hypothesize that the children's blood lead content is related to lead particles carried into the home on a recently fired gun and the parent's clothing. That sounds weak as hell to me. It's much more likely that the children and parents are both exposed when the gun is fired. More likely, in my opinion, the whole family was exposed by going to Nascar races, that until recently still used leaded gasoline, or some other environmental exposure. I would imagine that long term lead exposure could readily be associated with unsafe gun storage.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 1 month ago

There's our friends from Louisiana who remodeled old houses, including stripping old paint with a belt sander - their kids tested real high, for blood lead levels.

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[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

I really thought this was an onion headline or something. Safe gun storage leads to less lead in children... haha... but no, for real for real.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Americans having lead poisoning from too many guns checks right the fuck out

edit: People upvoting comments that clearly didn't read the article also checks the fuck out

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But what if the government wants stupid children? I mean, the current government would not stand a chance if the population was not that stupid on average.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

But what? Omit the first 4 words of that comment and it's essentially gospel.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 1 month ago

The bulk of the current crop of voters (approaching or in retirement) grew up in peak-lead in the air from gasoline... they've got a few years before they age out.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Hoover’s research has focused on how firearm-related lead can contribute to increased blood lead levels in children in the United States. Firearms use lead-based ammunition and primers, he explained, so discharging a firearm releases lead particles that can be inhaled or inadvertently transported into the home on contaminated clothing or gear.

If this also.works for adults,not would explain a lot of the insanely behaviors of gun nut magas

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

lead poisonining is the least of your worries when it can just kill you right away from a high velocity.

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