"We did it, Patrick! We made a technological breakthrough!"
A place for all those who loathe AI to discuss things, post articles, and ridicule the AI hype. Proud supporter of working people. And proud booer of SXSW 2024.
AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.
The AI "artists" really crack me up.
It's like someone telling you they can run really fast, like crazy fast, faster than anyone else in the world.
And then when you ask them to show you, they give you a shit-eating grin and get in a car and hit the gas.
to be fair - player piano is a great idea and there were composers who did stuff specifically for it - Nancarrow is the most prominent one. it's a completely different aesthetic and requires not trying to make it seem like anything it is not though.
If you need an LLM to tell you how to write then you’re a fraud and a hack. It’s a skill, get good or fuck off, if you want to learn then you have to fucking learn, otherwise you’re just a plagiarist who doesn’t know shit.
there are ways to implement LLM Generative AI creatively but it has nothing to do with what we traditionally perceive as writing fiction. It is more of text adventure interactive writing kind of thing and you still need to do much of everything while generative AI adapts it on the go. that's one of the few legitimate use cases that actually accomplish something that is hard to do otherwise.
Fuck that. Writing is hard in general, if you’re not willing to do the work then you’re not doing the work, doesn’t matter if it’s hard, if you didn’t write it then you’re not writing. No excuses. Stop handing over your imagination just because things that are difficult to do well are difficult to do well.
i don't think you understand what i mean and your comment has nothing to do with what i said.
I don’t think you understood what you meant.
If she was taking about just a proof read, then I'm okay with it. But I don't believe she is taking about proof reading. AI should be nowhere near the creative process.
there's actually an entire subgenre of writers pretending to workshop story ideas with generative AI but actually trolling to get the most ridiculous responses. it works best with Claude because it create dedicated skills to make it even more stupid. Not everyone's cup of tea but sometimes it is funny when clanker attempts to make sense of some obviously ridiculous story pitch while the writer keeps pulling the rug from under it.
~~AI~~ LLM hallucinations are incredible for creativity, but the people who just lean on them for the majority of it are lazy.
If you need to proof read something you can do it with spell check in your weird processor and an understanding of grammar.
I ran your comment through my weird processor (my brain) and found a typo!
If you’re going to send me the output of some LLM, do me a favour and just send me the prompt instead. Otherwise I’m going to spend as much time reading it as you spent writing it.
LLMs are stochastic. If I send you the prompt instead of the output, then there's no guarantee that the output you get will be correct. If I generate the text myself, I can verify that it's correct before sending it off.
The problem is that as the recipient, you have no idea whether I've even read the output, let alone verified or understood it. And with the low barrier to entry, it's much more likely that you're getting unverified slop. Sharing the prompt isn't going to help with that.
Edit: sorry, posted before I finished writing.
"Write a message to a girl so I look nice and not a creep that wants to fuck her"?
Of course it will be correct: the prompt contains the idea you wanted to convey. I’ll read that and know what you meant. Feeding that prompt into an LLM doesn’t add any new ideas from you, it just inflates the text like a balloon and gussies it up with useless window dressing.
If anything, it obscures what you meant!
The only people who would use AI for creative work are those who are unwilling to take the time to become good at it or are incapable of doing so.
This is an unpopular opinion, but as someone who builds stuff from scratch, this is the same feeling i get when someone holds up a 3d printed item and goes “i made this”
That depends, really. Making a decent print can be really difficult and people can be pround of succeeding at that part of the process. Especially if you have a bad printer. Making the actual 3D models yourself on the other hand is no different than making stuff from scratch. It's a skill that you have to aquire.
3d scanning is actually a lot of fun. I had a stint in a museum and we were scanning sculptures for replica molds (because some bitches just can't stop firing ballistic missiles at our museums). However, fixing those 3d models in Blender afterwards was not fun.
I'm pretty amazed what you can do with simple photogrammetry at home, but Blender is still not fun.
it is even less fun when you're just thrown into it without prior training. learning it on the go just because folks who were supposed to do it dropped out was rough.
If they've created the 3d file themselves that seems like an accurate thing to say, as opposed to just printing something off the internet. Obviously the amount of effort and perhaps artistic expression is gonna differ, but like, I think most printed stuff only exists to serve a specific function anyway
The best way I have found to make sense of why some people are so enthousiastic to shill for AI, is to see AI as yet another product that preys upon people's insecurities. In this case it's maybe the worst insecurity of all: feeling like you're less intelligent than other people.
Taking that insecurity as the through-line, this kind of shilling makes perfect sense IMO. It's essentially a form of self soothing, saying "everyone is or will be using this, it's not just me!".
The new kind of writer's block