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[–] regdog@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Facts that happen to be true" what kind of orwellian speak is this?

[–] Archimedes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Welcome to the future, it's post-truth here.

[–] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 44 points 2 days ago

"facts that happen to be true" aka facts

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Wait. So china pointed out why data centers are bad and were right about it and people agreed?

That's a really weird ass "covert campaign".

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

~~mis~~information campaign

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 8 points 2 days ago
[–] hark@lemmy.world 109 points 3 days ago (2 children)

OpenAI has published a report

Into the trash it goes.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Free toilet paper 😃😃

[–] ButteredBread@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

Don't use that toilet paper, it's bad for you.

[–] gnate@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

From trash to trash, dust to dust

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Garbage in, garbage out

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 207 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Damn the evil CCCCP and their nefarious plot to *checks notes* tell the truth

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 102 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The best propaganda is always the truth.

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 34 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Genuinely why I hate anti-america/anti-capitalism propaganda based off lies. You don't need to lie when just telling the truth is damning. The lies just undermine everything when they're exposed, makes people question even the facts.

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[–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 days ago (5 children)

The best propaganda is always the truth.

When they shut down the RT America studio under the foreign agents law and direct TV intervention, they did interviews with the ex-RT dissident-esq reporters who were working there. I don't remember who, and who was interviewing, so take this with a grain of salt. When they were asked on the lines of how they felt working for Russian propaganda and information campaign. They said along the lines of that of all the networks they had worked on, they were never felt as free as when they worked on RT, and they were quite open that it was all part of bringing up narratives that would disrupt the American mainstream ones and create political disruption and doubt. Their handlers in Moscow knew that the best way to achieve this was just to give them reach and mostly uncensored platform and let them do mostly whatever they want, because they knew that just bringing out the truth was the most damaging thing to American establishment.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

they were never felt as free as when they worked on RT

I assume these reporters were not the ones reporting on the state of russia

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[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Another beacon of truth from the company of Sam Altman, known for his honesty and forthrightness

[–] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 105 points 3 days ago (3 children)

So... So they ran an information campaign?

[–] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 64 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 8 points 2 days ago

Sigh... no, they don't actually.

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Anyone saying anything true about the american tech industry, or about anything at all, could be a secret asset in the employ of the Chinese government. They can't be trusted.

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[–] Chais@sh.itjust.works 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Those evil Chinese propagandists! How dare they… *flips through notes* tell the truth!?

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Eh, propaganda isn't about truth or fiction, it's about manipulating media to push a narrative.

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

Like every CEO and corpo does every single day, they don't get the benefit of the doubt anymore.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yep, like most commenters here have been manipulated by this media and blindly accept the claims of there being a Chinese campaign in the first place.
You should definitely take that scummy US fascist defense contractor's word for it.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 125 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"Facts that happened to be true"

Please, shut the fuck up. Fucking shut the fuck up. I am at the end of my wits with this place.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (2 children)

As opposed to, what, facts that aren't true? Those aren't facts at all.

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago

"Alternative facts"

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 15 points 3 days ago

As opposed to just calling them facts because they are.

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[–] Solrac@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

"These dirty commies! Making everyone woke with their factually correct propaganda! They just want lil ol me to not have my american dream!"

[–] Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sam Altman seems to be a massive cunt

[–] mgrecca2026@lemmy.zip 18 points 3 days ago (5 children)

He raped his younger sister

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Yeah this is why everyone hates sam altman and not because he's just going around saying that AI companies are worth more than the entirety of planet earth combined.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 45 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The real story is not about Chines influence on data center opinion.

Its openai reading conversations of their customers.

I mean we all already assumed they do before but this is so blatend, it smells like manufactured consent. You need to go from “suspect it happens” to “its normal to be like this”

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Their proof is a couple accounts in China asked the chatbot how to convince Americans to not want datacenters in their backyard...

If I asked a chatbot how to convince someone to not like getting punched in the dick, them not wanting to get punched in the dick doesn't mean there's a grand conspiracy and that's why Bob got mad after being punched in the dick.

Bob didn't need anyone to tell him not to like getting punched in the dick to have that response.

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[–] vegafjord@slrpnk.net 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why the fuck make up lies for your propaganda when you dont have to.

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[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I don't think China cares about US that much ngl.

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[–] elbiter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Everything they told us about capitalism... turned out to be true.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Ugh, people with those pesky facts, very inconvenient! /s

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 days ago

Thanks China

[–] BOplaid@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

PRC ain't good but this is absurd. Fuck ClosedAI

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

I’m sure it was China and not the fact that AI is causing layoffs, increased prices, and harm to our communities.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

I didn't need some Chinese campaign hatred was my gut reaction.

Actually, at first, for like a week, I was OK with it. Then the affects started piling up. My boss (warehouse middle manager) is AI coding apps to FUCK ME at work (figuratively fuck me ofc, but he's a dickhead. Claims to be communist too [and I'm not even, as unpopular as that is here] and meanwhile he's like "here's some anti-worker bullshit that will help strangle you, isn't it neat, I made it with AI! The same AI that for some reason I think won't replace me first." Fucking kys. I work with the actual product, he tells people "do this." His precious AI will take his job 2y before mine.)

I'm not even on the environmental side of it, though that is a big concern and useful ammo to me being in the anti- position, I cannot stand the dumbing down of humanity, and the murder robots that are officially now a deployed reality as of last week, and the enhanced surveillance. All of that is a reality in my daily life (besides the murder robots but OH BOY if you don't think that's coming to a town near you..), I do not need propaganda to hate what I can freely observe that I hate.

[–] motruck@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

So we wre listening to OpenAI on this one? Sure prove any of this you lying sack of shit Sam Altman. All these pyschos running companies.

#stoplisteningtoceos

[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Fun Fact: the American Govt. has okay'ed giving China GPU's now that they get a cut of the profits. 🙄

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[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They asked ChatGPT about how to influence Americans views on AI, apparently.

Sure thing.

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