Fuckin' what? Is this meme 10 years old or what?
I have Sony xm 3 headphones and I can't game on them because everything is delayed like 100ms
Bluetooth is a terrible standard for gaming. You'd want something with its own dedicated 2.4ghz dongle.
Couldn't believe it at first and thought mine was a defective pair. The delay is atrocious
That's not a gaming headphone. A proper gaming headphone have near zero latency, you can even play rhythm games with it. Usually it will come with it's own wireless dongle and doesn't use Bluetooth at all.
I have G533 which are even discontinued from production, they have no real latency.
Have you used a wireless set of headphones lately?
With Bluetooth latency isn't an issue for media, but it's noticeable while gaming. But over 2.4GHz... there's no noticeable latency at all.
Barely noticeable while gaming. Rhythm games for sure, but otherwise my biggest complaint is that all 2.4ghz headphones are "gaming" headphones. Not many low latency high end options.
Every rhythm game worth its salt has visual offset nowadays so its not an issue
Unfortunately, my game is not a rhythm game. I basically can't tell which of my shots hit the target. If I shoot 3 times in 300ms, I don't hear the first shot until I click the second time, so if I miss the first shot, it sounds like I missed the second shot, it's very jarring
I'll never understand wireless keyboards. They just sit on the desk? Why go through the hassle of charging it?
I hate wires in general. Everything that can be wireless IS wireless at my home.
I have a seperate wireless gaming keyboard for couch gaming in front of my tv. It has a purpose
You clearly haven't used wireless headphones in last 10 years, have you?
If you use the gamingest headphones with proprietary dongles, you can get decent latency. But then you're sacrificing on sound quality or ANC, and if you have multiple devices you want to use them with (eg a console and a PC), you have to either physically move the dongle between them, or suffer with Bluetooth lag and connection hassles on one of them.
Bluetooth is still bullshit in terms of latency. It will get better with LE Audio, but whether it will get good enough is anyone's guess, and it's still in its infancy and support is almost non-existent.
yeah but if we incorporate Bluetooth in this discussion, then Bluetooth mice and keyboards suck for gaming just as much.
I completely agree with you on that, though. It baffles my mind how, in 2023, in the version 5.2, Bluetooth still sucks so hard in terms of latency.
I really wish other PC guys would stop being like
"noooooo you don't understand there's a 10 millisecond lag time with wireless so it's LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE TRASH, no I don't care that's about 1/10th as long as it takes you to blink, I totally notice it and it ruins it for me!!!!!!"
It really seems like some people only get enjoyment from the idea of having the best possible version of something and being elitist about it. Rather than just enjoying their thing that plays games for what it is.
If you play any games where timing matters, 10ms can be the difference between doing the thing and not doing the thing.
Rhythm games are a perfect example. The tightest timing window is often 1frame at 60fps, which is 16ms. If you are reacting to a headphone with 10ms latency then you'll be missing over half of the timing window. If you also have a wireless keyboard with 10ms then you will react 10ms late, your input will be received another 10ms late and you will miss the entire window and have to adjust your timing to be a full frame early.
Fighting games also commonly use this 1frame window. It's even worse when we are talking about mouse lag interrupting your hand-eye feedback loop on camera movement. I just tried to play the new Myst on an underpowered laptop with too much frame time with vsync enabled and that was enough to make me unable to navigate a curvy corridor, until I disabled vsync.
Latency is a real problem. To put it in the words of John Carmack
I can send an IP packet to Europe faster than I can send a pixel to the screen. How f’d up is that?
The other issue is that you start compounding latency. If you're playing online with a 50ms ping, that hear > react > input registered cycle is suddenly 70ms instead of the 10ms you were expecting. Every single instance of latency you're adding to the system is taking you another step away from reacting in time.
The latency is unbearable when playing on a midi keyboard. Gaming is not the only thing out there.
The latency isnt the issue for me. I just hate stuff that runs on batteries when cables work perfectly fine. Batteries will wear out faster than cables do. (Good cables at least) and this makes more e-waste.
Cables FTW
My Bluetooth headphones have a 3.5mm jack that will bypass the BT function. Love it!
Wireless headsets are amazing. It is so nice to just be able to walk away from your desk while still hearing the video you were listening to
The problem with latency is a bluetooth problem. Get one that doesn't use bluetooth or Infrared and you're golden. Idk about cheaper ones but my steelseries headphones are amazing with zero latency.
Wired best because i don't need to charge it and there is no possibility of signal jamming by operating a microwave.
If operating a microwave interferes with any of your 2.4GHz networks, you need a new microwave.
But then how will he ever join the X-Men?
Sennheiser GSP 370. I literally cannot tell if the have latency, and being Sennheisers they sound really nice, too.
But this particular pair beats one the big issue I've always had with wireless headphones, having to charge them... these have 100 hours of battery life.
I don't charge them for weeks. And when they do finally complain about low battery, you still have more than enough juice to finish that night of gaming, and one more, before actually plugging them in. Unless you leave them unused for months, or don't plug them in at the end of the session when they do get low, they are ALWAYS ready to be used.
Only issue I’ve ever had with wireless headphones is the ear piercing screech they do when the battery is running low
I use wireless headphones nearly exclusively now but hate wireless mice and keyboards....
The latency has been good for a while. The sound-quality has also caught up recently too with stuff like the Audeze Maxwell
For average wireless headphones, sure, but there are plenty of options without lag. Low Latency Bluetooth is a thing and so are 2.4ghz connections. I don't have issues with either
I really like my steelseries artics 7. Battery last so long, I sometimes forget when I last recharge them.
Also amazing reach, I can go anywhere in my house while keep on listening.
I use wired keyboard and mouse, because they're always in the same place and the cords don't bother me.
As long as you use headphones and a bluetooth adapter that both support APTX LL (low-latency), it's instantaneous for me. Same as using it wired.
As a gamer and (almost) audiophile, any solution besides wired is just dancing around tradeoffs to get a worse result for more money. I'll stick with my cord.
My wireless headphones have a double battery meaning I never have to charge them. My wireless mouse and keyboard are always connected as they run out of battery to fast..
I just prefer cable for those two. For the keyboard cable makes no difference to me. Mice cables have come a long way and a good one is barely noticeable.
Headphones though, I'm never going back to the cord. Both Sony XM and Bose QC work great for me.
audio quality too, man the difference that I have experienced is night and day between my 80$ DUNU Titan S IEM and the 200$ Razer Opus 2021, the Opus is now mostly sitting collecting dust
Go watch Crinacle:)
The affordable stuff is usually cabled, so I use that.
You rich asses talking about latency, I'm just out here trying to keep gaming.
I use the Sennheiser Momentum 4 with no latency problems at all.
Although gaming is usually on speakers for me (Edifier) and that's all cables.
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