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It just reliably works for me and family that are not Linux people. Sure, other distros have specialized uses, but many are just lots of meaningless work.

I am a tech lead and have >10y experience, so I can handle Linux perfectly fine. Does not prove my opinion right though. I just think most distros is a waste of time to use and configure. My OS is not something I want to fix or actively maintain, like ever. I just want to do stuff and play games. Mint lets me do that, without having to fix stuff.

I have tried lots of distros and every single one is more work, except maybe Ubuntu. Most users don't want to maintain their OS, most Linux users at the moment? Maybe.

Yes, always being at the forefront of all software through Arch or another rolling distro is cool, it also means that you might be using less reliable software. Fedora is great in many respects, it is just less flexible. Yes, ostree is cool.

Its just that those things is for those who WANT to tinker with their OS. In the future more of the great stuff will be implemented in Linux Mint, but til then, why bother? (Unless you find joy in it)

We should stop recommending other distros to regular people.

TL;DR People just want an OS that works, not another project. Lets stop recommending all kinds of distros, just go for Mint.

Also, I am trying to create a discussion here, not 100% my opinion.

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[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

yeah nah

Bazzite is the distro that just works like android

NOT mint

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago

not really an 'unpopular' opinion. mint is a solid choice for most everyone and appears at or near the top in most lists of recommendations.

[–] Elting@piefed.social 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

A good OS becomes invisible, you just don’t notice or think about it, mint does just that. Most linux users are power users that get more satisfaction from endless tinkering than just using their PC though.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This is the part that kills linux, and has for many years. The power users assume everyone knows how to linux. So if something goes wrong, your linux from says "oh yeah, just run the bash script and sudo the nana."

And I'm like "....."

Not even sure half the time if he's intentionally gaslighting me, or if he genuinely is so lost in his own bubble that he has no clue that I have no clue what those words are.

Then he's like "here, just copy this into terminal."

And that gives an error. And he's like "then fix the error", and I'm like "I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE ERROR MEANS!!!

I have no idea if it's still true, but in my days using windows, the error popups at least told you what was wrong, and it was intuitive how to fix it.

If it says "audio card not found". So windows has this one center where all the hardware is. Generally you poke around in there until something works.

And thats the difference between most people, and linux users. When windows fucks up, most windows users don't know what they're doing, but they know where to do it. So they go into the hardware section and just fuck around until SOMETHING works.

Whereas linux users get the error code, and know exactly whats causing it, and how to fix it. But if you're trying linux, and DON'T know those things, you just get an error you don't understand. You google it, and you get 10 different possible issues that maybe are what you're dealing with. But the problem is, on windows if you fuck around, you're not likely to break anything. On linux if you fuck around, you could make everything so much worse.

And thats when you get linux users, telling brand new windows users "Yeah! Start with CachyOS. Its arch, but easier!"

Which again, I can't tell if those linux users are gaslighting, or clueless.

[–] Pirtatogna@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I will have to disagree. I think what you find intuitive and obvious largely comes down to what you're used to.

I have very limited experience with Windows, although I did have Windows 3.0 PC in the 1990's. Windows at that time was basically just a graphical shell on top of DOS. As an OS my system was running DR-DOS, which was basically a DOS compatible CP/M. Rest on my 40 years of computing history has been mostly with either CP/M or Unix-like systems.

With this background I find Windows systems (yes, modern ones included) to be incredibly unintuitive and difficult to maintain. I don't understand their logic and I find it annoying having to navigate through endless amount of dialogue boxes to accomplish a simple task that would require one command on any Linux.

My point here is that while Linux users perhaps indeed are in their own bubble, so seems very much to be the case with Windows users too. There is no basis for thinking that Windows is somehow inherently easier for everybody. It is not. It's just what large amount of people are used to, and exrapolating from their own experience (not at all unlike Linux users) they assume that the same perceived easiness must be true for everyone.

[–] DireTech@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

In my experience, most people on windows don’t go into settings and mess around on their own. They ask for help or live with it. The amount actually investigating and fixing problems is low even on iOS.

[–] plutopos@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

And this is the best case scenario, a user who reads. My mother once wanted to try Linux, so I gave her Mint. She hit a roadblock when she couldn't view Amazon Prime videos due to DRM issues. Firefox prompted her to enable DRM but she just didn't look at the prompt. Instead she searched around and said Reddit users said to get an extension (?).

Linux users underestimate how much skill it takes

[–] Elting@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago

The few times Mint has given me problems, I appreciated that it didn’t seem like the system was fighting me the whole time I was fixing it, which was a breath of fresh air from Windows. But yeah the linux community has a superiority complex that is toxic and wards off new users.

[–] Brujones@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

This is a great point. I moved onto a distro that does need more tinkering. But Mint is still, and always will be installed and ready to go. Mostly just because when something goes wrong in my main OS, it's easier to boot into Mint to fix it, rather than a bootable USB.

[–] sleepmode@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

This was why I stopped using Mint when i tried it years ago. My tinkering broke the world too easily. Not sure if that has changed.

[–] rozodru@piefed.world 1 points 1 day ago

indeed. for the vast majority of users something like Mint is perfect. or for gaming something like Bazitte. that's all you need and you're off to the races.

I use NixOS because I get bored with other distros. I love the endless configuring, find a better method of configuring, using nix-shells for various things, etc. it's fun. I can't go back to any other distro because I find them boring.

[–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

When anyone who isn't a power user asks, I recommend Mint. Always.

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Ehh, case by case. On my aunt's laptop for web browsing and emails, 100% yes.

For my mates Frankenstein gaming rig with some parts 15 years old and some 2 years - no.... Steam opening time of >15 mins, with game start times of >30 mins compared to windows 10 at 3 mins and 5 mins. Literally on the train home after switching him back to windows (I did promise), wishing I'd lubuntu'd it.

Linux is great, but the best distro depends on machine.

[–] ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

"!most cases" 😉

[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago

If his main use case, or an important one, is gaming then I'd argue one of the gaming distros would be best suited.

Bazzite is a relatively safe bet, but I'd recommend CachyOS if he's on supported hardware (probably is from what you wrote), having a better chance of drawing more performance-% out of it when it seems that it's needed.

Mint can game, but it's a lot more hassle and manual intervention (depending on hardware, mostly).

[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago

After recommending mint for the longest time to most newcomers, I have recently switched away from it as a default recommendation as it's just too picky on hardware and random bullshit just not working.

I only recommend it for ultra basic cases: "I need a browser and do email, maybe write a letter or something". Especially anytime "gaming" is even casually mentioned, I've had so many issues with some people that I actively discourage them from mint.

[–] Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk 3 points 1 day ago

Yea, if you don’t have a specific usecase that requires something different, then start with mint. If/when you get bored by it, you’re probably fluent enough to migrate comfortably to Arch, Debian or whatever.

[–] plutopos@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

My only gripe with Mint is that it doesn't officially support Kde Plasma. But it's a minor one compares to Debian not packaging printer drivers out of the box despite them being open source. Or Fedora's lack of any third party software, most notably media codecs. Or Ubuntu's compulsory use of snap packages.

[–] Anonymo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Just wish they would have leaned more into using ZFS instead of removing it. With zfsbootmenu/snapshots, it would be even better. Just because I like BTRFS but don't trust it as much to not corrupt.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Could be worse. You could be recommending a brand new ONE Linux OS to rule them all.

https://xkcd.com/927/

[–] itrealgood@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

I agree. Also, I like how simple and friendly the cinnamon desktop is. I hope they're not going to change it too much when they switch to wayland

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

I have not used it but just doubt it is more easy install and go than zorin. that being said im loving bazzite which is a whole nother side of the spectrum.

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Its so ugly I can’t bear to look at it.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

stupid sexy KDE…!

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“Most cases” is doing most of the heavy lifting here. You’re clearly not like most people since you have specific aesthetic standards. Most people don’t care as long as it doesn’t look like it came from 1993.

You clearly care, and that’s why you should run something more specific. Maybe you want it to look cool out of the box, or maybe you want to configure it to your heart’s content. There are different distros for both audiences. Both of whom are definitely not like most people.

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think if the goal is to get “most people” to switch to Linux from a modern, commercial OS, then suggesting they use an OS that looks like it’s from 2001 is not going to give them a great feeling about the switch. “Most people” aka normies do make decisions on aesthetics alone.

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

That's important for the initial steps, but none of that really matters if normies can't get normal everyday stuff done. Those kinds of problems are usually related to people not being familiar with a different UI or the way things work. Often, the problems are also caused by software compatibility or availability. Even if the distro looks gorgeous, but using it causes headaches, normies will switch back.

All of these issues act as barriers that prevent most people from sticking with Linux. Those who hate big tech with a burning passion are willing to tolerate such inconveniences, but must people aren't.