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A good OS becomes invisible, you just don’t notice or think about it, mint does just that. Most linux users are power users that get more satisfaction from endless tinkering than just using their PC though.
This is the part that kills linux, and has for many years. The power users assume everyone knows how to linux. So if something goes wrong, your linux from says "oh yeah, just run the bash script and sudo the nana."
And I'm like "....."
Not even sure half the time if he's intentionally gaslighting me, or if he genuinely is so lost in his own bubble that he has no clue that I have no clue what those words are.
Then he's like "here, just copy this into terminal."
And that gives an error. And he's like "then fix the error", and I'm like "I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE ERROR MEANS!!!
I have no idea if it's still true, but in my days using windows, the error popups at least told you what was wrong, and it was intuitive how to fix it.
If it says "audio card not found". So windows has this one center where all the hardware is. Generally you poke around in there until something works.
And thats the difference between most people, and linux users. When windows fucks up, most windows users don't know what they're doing, but they know where to do it. So they go into the hardware section and just fuck around until SOMETHING works.
Whereas linux users get the error code, and know exactly whats causing it, and how to fix it. But if you're trying linux, and DON'T know those things, you just get an error you don't understand. You google it, and you get 10 different possible issues that maybe are what you're dealing with. But the problem is, on windows if you fuck around, you're not likely to break anything. On linux if you fuck around, you could make everything so much worse.
And thats when you get linux users, telling brand new windows users "Yeah! Start with CachyOS. Its arch, but easier!"
Which again, I can't tell if those linux users are gaslighting, or clueless.
I will have to disagree. I think what you find intuitive and obvious largely comes down to what you're used to.
I have very limited experience with Windows, although I did have Windows 3.0 PC in the 1990's. Windows at that time was basically just a graphical shell on top of DOS. As an OS my system was running DR-DOS, which was basically a DOS compatible CP/M. Rest on my 40 years of computing history has been mostly with either CP/M or Unix-like systems.
With this background I find Windows systems (yes, modern ones included) to be incredibly unintuitive and difficult to maintain. I don't understand their logic and I find it annoying having to navigate through endless amount of dialogue boxes to accomplish a simple task that would require one command on any Linux.
My point here is that while Linux users perhaps indeed are in their own bubble, so seems very much to be the case with Windows users too. There is no basis for thinking that Windows is somehow inherently easier for everybody. It is not. It's just what large amount of people are used to, and exrapolating from their own experience (not at all unlike Linux users) they assume that the same perceived easiness must be true for everyone.
In my experience, most people on windows don’t go into settings and mess around on their own. They ask for help or live with it. The amount actually investigating and fixing problems is low even on iOS.
And this is the best case scenario, a user who reads. My mother once wanted to try Linux, so I gave her Mint. She hit a roadblock when she couldn't view Amazon Prime videos due to DRM issues. Firefox prompted her to enable DRM but she just didn't look at the prompt. Instead she searched around and said Reddit users said to get an extension (?).
Linux users underestimate how much skill it takes
The few times Mint has given me problems, I appreciated that it didn’t seem like the system was fighting me the whole time I was fixing it, which was a breath of fresh air from Windows. But yeah the linux community has a superiority complex that is toxic and wards off new users.
This is a great point. I moved onto a distro that does need more tinkering. But Mint is still, and always will be installed and ready to go. Mostly just because when something goes wrong in my main OS, it's easier to boot into Mint to fix it, rather than a bootable USB.
This was why I stopped using Mint when i tried it years ago. My tinkering broke the world too easily. Not sure if that has changed.
indeed. for the vast majority of users something like Mint is perfect. or for gaming something like Bazitte. that's all you need and you're off to the races.
I use NixOS because I get bored with other distros. I love the endless configuring, find a better method of configuring, using nix-shells for various things, etc. it's fun. I can't go back to any other distro because I find them boring.