Shame women don't have the same drive and ingenuity
this post was submitted on 30 May 2026
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That wasn’t my point. My point was that the world is run by men. Policymakers and politicians are, in general, men. And since abortion is about giving women freedom over their bodies and life decisions, (most) men don’t allow that. Therefore there’s a very unfair disconnect. My point was that if men were the target of anti-abortion policies, then such policies would by and large not exist.
ETA: As another commenter pointed out, perhaps statistically most men are pro-choice, but unfortunately in general the backwards few who go into and succeed in politics are the ones who make the call.
Cool angle, but it breaks down biologically.
Obviously 🤣
If all things were the same, but it was men who fell pregnant and gave birth, well then all things but the one would be the same. Because it clearly says that all things, besides the one, would be the same.
We would just have hysterectomies. Why the fuck would we want such a disadvantage?
Believe it or not, there are some men who want kids.
In year 2000 poll, percentage of pro-choice people was 49% among both men and women. In 2006 it was 51% for both. Since 1995 and until 2020, the difference never exceeded 8%, peaking at 20% in 2025 correlating with political polarisation, with year 2010 men responding more pro-choice than women respondents by 5% (47% vs. 42%)‡.
Partisan divide was always more influential than the gender one, with pro-choice stance being 47% less popular among republican women than among democratic women; 42% gap for R/D men in 2020–2021 poll‡. If cisgender men could give birth, it wouldn't have more influence on their abortion stance than overall political beliefs.
‡ Gender Gaps on Abortion Reach Historic Highs | Gallup, June 2025
If males gave birth then it would be females that competed for access to us and became physically stronger than males. The only thing that would change is the name of the physically and politically powerful gender.
It wouldn't make society better. Hyenas have bigger stronger dominant females and they have no utopia. Seahorse males give birth, they are the more maternal, females cheat on them.
Only fundamental difference between male and female is size and motility of sex cells. Only reason animals like us vary in size and strength is due to difference in offspring investment strategies.
if both sexes were hermaphroditic, then there would be less conflict as in other animals whom posesses both sexes gonads.
What is up with Lemmy, men and pregnancy??
Did I miss the new meta?
I was thinking the same thing. First something about moths(I don't really get what that was about), then Loss, now this. What's next?
Luigi board? /j
Is it a hostility to some essential concept of women, or a way to devalue reproduction caring and domestic labor? Which force is stronger, more original?
Sexism is the strongest of all oppression. It is the most common, widespread, and ignored of all oppression and causes a huge amount of human suffering.
When women are dehumanized it usually relies on the prejudices that have been developed and reinforced through culture. So I think the essential concept is the driving force.
The devaluing of domestic labor is a side effect of a class of people without rights viewed as property.
https://spot.colorado.edu/~heathwoo/Phil160,Fall02/thomson.htm -- ANYTHING less is denying the personhood of anyone that can get pregnant.
If men bore the children then women would have to do the sexual pursuing. The human race would quickly die out.
If all things were the same, but it was men who fell pregnant and gave birth, all things would be different.
This is such would be such an extreme warping of reality that it’s essentially impossible to make any assumptions about what it would entail like this. You know the joke about a time traveller moving a rock? Yeah, that times a million.
This here. If men would give birth, they would be women.
So much of what makes up the differences between the male and female experiences is down to the fact that women give birth.
If it was the men who gave birth and not the women, we'd have pretty much everything we have now, just gender-reversed.
This assumes it simply reverses the roles so men give birth and women don't.
What if we all gave birth?
In that case, there likely wouldn't be two separate genders at all, because why would there be? Hermaphrodite species exist, and they usually just have a single gender.
*sex
sexes are not the same as genders and should not be called genders
what if we all gave birth 👉👈
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Did you know grey hyenas have a matriarchal society? Females are more aggressive, dominant and hold different social status to males. They aren't less horrible than patriarchal hyenas.
The problem isn't the males or the females. It's that they're hyenas.
And they give birth through a pseudo penis that is torn apart.
I don’t think it brings anything useful to the conversation, but it is an interesting fact.
This conversation is now about hyenas.
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No, but they (we) would be more careful about contraception.
Clearly, we have to genetically modify all men to be hyenas, so that they can experience the Miracle of Life through their dicks. /S.
men have the anti-mullerien hormone from the Y chromosone to stop female secondary characteristics during fetal development. rarely there are disorders that prevent that gene from activating or it goes missing and they develop as a female, minus having the extra biological X CHromosone.
Androgen insensitivity syndrome is fascinating. Plenty of people with it grow up female and have no idea their genes are different, until they reached puberty and never get their period.
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All this post proves is that people have no fucking clue what abortion entails
How so?
Having been present for an abortion please do tell.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
No, there wouldn't be.
The policy would be the same, because the issue of abortion makes the two ruling parties way too much money to make it worth legalizing or banning completely. Hell, when the leak of the Roe repeal occurred, Democrats raked in $80,000,000 alone. A cool $80,000,000 and all they had to do was pretend to care about abortion by making a tweet or something.
OP is incorrect.
If men could give birth everyone would tell them to man the fuck up and deal with it.
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