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[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 63 points 2 days ago (7 children)

SM is going to cost like 1000+ isn't it....

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)

At this point, try closer to $1200-$1500, and that's for the BASE model.

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pretty sure it always was. Tge steam machine was already fucked by the time aome random guy wrote an article that just randomly assumed it's gonna cost 500 dollars for no reason at all

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[–] Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)
[–] Pyro@programming.dev 20 points 2 days ago

Steam Machine

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 54 points 2 days ago (2 children)

$1130 CAD for the 512gb model.

I built my gaming desktop for that price and it has a 4070 super.

Next word generating companies have literally made personal computing unaffordable for the next decade (at least).

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

have literally made personal computing unaffordable

…not if you buy our XBOX GAME CLOUD!!! and WINDOWS 365!!! rent forever and own nothing! the future is looking bright 🤑 /s

[–] FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Cold day in hell i ever subscribe to that shit.

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

unaffordable for the next decade

If you're talking RAM prices, those are expected to come down in early 2028, so 18-ish months.

[–] Exec@pawb.social 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So how are they expected to come down? If new capacity becomes available the ai companies would gobble it up again.

[–] belazor@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

Because there are some signs the bubble might be about to burst. Some of the purchase orders have either been rescinded or downsized, and - ironically - thanks to capitalism AI is becoming unaffordable for some businesses. As popularity increases, AI companies are raising prices and this is leading to human labour once again becoming cheaper than just vibe coding everything.

Sources:

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That is just straight up not even remotely worth it.

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I hope people here give Valve the same flack they gave Nintendo and Sony for raising prices.

Hell, the Switch 2 went up $50 and everyone on Lemmy lost their god damned minds in that thread because "Nintendo bad" or whatever. But I'm sure because it's our sweet baby angel Gabe on his 20 yachts we'll all be reasonable about the $200+ upcharges.

Look, none of these companies WANT to raise prices on these consoles. It's just the AI bullshit and stupid ass tariffs ruining everything. That's what needs to change.

[–] DillDough@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago

Valve doesn't have 50+ years of hardware experience though. Sony, Nintendo, and Msoft can all swing their big dicks all over that industry and get whatever the fuck they want, Valve cannot.

Valve can and does strongarm the software side all the time, the gaming industry would have died instead of exponentially surpassing the film industry if it weren't for Valve setting strong precedents.

And finally how in the fuck are you blaming AI at the same time that you are trying to defend Sony? The company that's adding AI to PLAY THE FUCKING GAME FOR YOU?

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They lost their minds because Nintendo said:

Last week, Nintendo president Shuntaro Furukawa told shareholders that the house of Mario had no current plans to raise the price of its $449.99 Switch 2.

Then they raised the price of the original switch and a bunch of the accessories.

Then the tariffs in the US were deemed to be illegal and they sued to get their ~~money~~ profit back and didn't want to repay the price increase they passed along to their customers.

There's also the fact that Nintendo was on a lot of people's shit lists for their litigiousness and other anti-consumer crap they had done so people were already mad at them before they raised prices.

When you look at it that way, Sony (who were also on people's shit lists for a laundry list of reasons) are no better in many's eyes.

Also, this completely ignores how small a company Valve is in comparison to Nintendo and Sony. I think that's the main problem actually. Valve isn't a hardware power house and they can't command the kind of sales contracts or parts/fab that Nintendo or Sony can. So they are less likely to be able to withstand raising prices on their hardware as a result. The fact that they have raised prices so late in comparison to their counterparts in the space is interesting even if you don't find it laudable.

At the end of the day, the backlash that Sony and Nintendo faced wasn't because of the price increase so much as it was because of all the other stuff.

Requiring proprietary hardware for $80+ games that almost never go on sale or have online subscription services that also keep going up, and then anti-consumer practices like (in Sony's case) the whole have to have an account to play their games on PC and not wanting to issue refunds where a PS account wasn't available but people bought the game and oh well we just won't port our games to PC at all then, and so on.

Like. There's way more to it than Valve good, Sony/Nintendo bad.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I hope people here give Valve the same flack they gave Nintendo and Sony for raising prices.

Narrator: they did not.

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

"We can't get mad at Gabe and Valve! PC Master Race loves not being able to buy physical games and loves buying a license to them from Valve!"

Waiting for the "bu-bu-bu-Game Cards!" response to this. I can still sell a game card.

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[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oof I mean I'm glad they are back in stock again but that stings. I do see valve being the only company that would lower them as soon as they are able though. Public shareholders wouldn't let them if they were public.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nah, that's not true. All of these companies would absolutely love to charge less for the console up front so that they can get recurring payments out of you elsewhere. It was a regular occurrence for decades that console prices would drop dramatically over time.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Less of an issue with Valve. They don't have as much of a need for a hardware loss leader since they earn from Steam regardless of which hardware it's running on.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (4 children)

As I understand it, none of the consoles are loss leading these days.

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

eli5 why can't someone make their own hardware, sell only to humans, and become instantly beloved and rich

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Because producing chips requires a complicated supply chain.

  1. Taiwan. China wants to own it for the same reason they can't just bomb it to smithereens. Producing chips requires human hardware engineers, possibly thousands depending on the complexity. Each engineer specializes in specific tasks and processes.

The human talent element is the most fragile and least replicable piece of the supply chain.

  1. Taiwan is close enough to China to take advantage of cheap factory labour for anything that doesn't require engineering skills.

The geography of Taiwan & China is the backbone of the supply chain.

  1. Extreme Ultraviolet (EUV) lithography systems. ASML from the Netherlands owns the proprietary design for the massive and complex machines that print microchip transistors onto silicon. US/Netherlands have restricted the sale of the most advanced systems to China.

The machines that allow for microchip production are all owned by one company

  1. In retaliation to the above China has restricted Rare Earth Metal exports to western manufacturers.

** Video Game components are now military assets**

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[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I guess I'm not buying the steam machine. I guess buying technology is an investment now.

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[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

They raised it an extra $100 in Australia over the US price.

Should of been increased to ~AU$1320, is actually AU$1429. (AU$1049 last week)

Thanks Gabe :')

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago

This timeline sucks.

[–] TheGoldenV@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Holy hell what a jump! Yeesh, I’m glad I got one in January, but there’s no way I’d be paying 1k for it.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

All this for stupid fucking anime profile pics

[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I guess I'm never upgrading my Steam Deck to oled

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[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sold out in USA in days? Hours? Dunno.

[–] Muffi@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

You called it. Still sold out in less than 24 hours.

[–] llii@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I will never buy a new system again.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It'll be a few years of pain, but once the bubble pops, we can start to return to normalcy. Take good care of the hardware you have in the meantime.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I don't want to crush people's optimism (I'm also envious of your viewpoint), but what makes you think any of this will pop and return to normalcy?

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We're in this place because AI companies are buying up all the supply, and in order to do that, they have to pay higher than market rates to buy what's left of the supply available. That means their break-even point is now higher than it would be in a rational economy, and they're already not profitable. That's a bubble. It doesn't matter if it's tulip bulbs, a business with "dot com" on the end of its name, or a home that no one lives in; if you're expecting to make money off of the next greater fool, it will pop.

But let's say it doesn't. The other way to meet the supply-demand curve and make money off of consumers like you and I who want to buy hardware at prices that we can afford is to increase production so that there's more supply. If this is the new normal (it's not), the component producers can increase their manufacturing capacity, and in a handful of years (pessimistically about a decade to build those sorts of factories, which would be brutal if true), they'll have enough throughput to meet everyone's demand. And I don't think those producers are looking to scale up because they also don't believe this is the new normal. If they believed that, then they're leaving future profits on the table by not scaling up production to meet demand.

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[–] SorryQuick@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Making cheap RAM is possible, it was done before. Now there’s huge demand. Surely some companies will come in and fill that demand. That’s the whole point of capitalism.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because none of this is profitable and has no plans to be profitable.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It only isn't profitable yet, because it's not good enough to replace most jobs yet. It will go from being unprofitable to very profitable, very quickly once it hits a certain point and they can stop relying on human labor entirely.

Or at least that's the plan.

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