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Food production is responsible for one-quarter of the world’s greenhouse gas emissions.

Eating locally would only have a significant impact if transport was responsible for a large share of food’s final carbon footprint. For most foods, this is not the case.

Greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions from transportation make up a very small amount of the emissions from food, and what you eat is far more important than where your food traveled from.

For most foods — and particularly the largest emitters — most GHG emissions result from land use change (shown in green) and from processes at the farm stage (brown). Farm-stage emissions include processes such as the application of fertilizers — both organic (“manure management”) and synthetic; and enteric fermentation (the production of methane in the stomachs of cattle). Combined, land use and farm-stage emissions account for more than 80% of the footprint for most foods.

Transport is a small contributor to emissions. For most food products, it accounts for less than 10%, and it’s much smaller for the largest GHG emitters. In beef from beef herds, it’s 0.5%.

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[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Okay, but how about we eat the rich instead?

[–] foxymochakitten@slrpnk.net 2 points 15 hours ago

The consumption of Elon Musk has been proven to be significantly more effective at reducing carbon than eating pork, beef or chicken

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 4 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I’m just spitballing here, but what if….. we all went vegan and stopped having children??

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

People don't produce all that much CO2, and by stewarding (food) forests and tending gardens they can be part of an ecosystem that absorbs more CO2 than they produce.

If you care enough about the environment to go vegan, you can raise your children to be net positive for the planet.

That does mean destroying capitalism, including most of the automotive industry, agriculture industry, aviation industry, data centers, and more.

[–] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 1 points 9 hours ago

That does mean destroying capitalism, including most of the automotive industry, agriculture industry, aviation industry, data centers, and more.

But muh Xbox n Mustang n burgers!

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 6 points 19 hours ago

The problem is the system, not the head count. As AI and automation advances, the capitalist class will have no problem causing just as much ecological damage with a hundredth of the current population.

[–] Jimny_Crkt@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 day ago

In my mind, local food is more about the economics of supporting small businesses in your community. Sure, eating beans and lentils shipped across the world to your closest whole foods may have a smaller carbon footprint, but your money is still being siphoned to the big businesses in that supply chain.

[–] the_abecedarian@piefed.social 50 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The concept of a personal "carbon footprint" was popularized by oil companies to refocus attention away from their responsibility for climate change

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To keep my carbon footprint low I dont buy from oil companies

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That one step is the one they were trying to avoid with the rest of this non-sense. You're not going to make up the difference for others not doing the same, with this stuff, or telling others to do this stuff.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And now those people are the ones crying about fuel prices while I don't give a shit because I don't even want it.

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just refuse to budget more for fuel when its more expensive. Gimme an excuse to refuse to leave the house because I don't have the fuel in my car to drive across town for whatever non-sense and still make it to work until pay-day, I'm going to take it.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Suppose I do this too, just that my budget is always zero

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 15 hours ago

I mean, yes, but the point I was making is that most people don't, and so demand doesn't adjust to supply or pricing quite as-it-should. I've got a few more payments to make on the vehicles I have before EV's become anything-like a feasible option for me.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

It's a useful tool, but you are correct that everything is overwhelmingly dominated by primary use of fossil fuels.

[–] cadekat@pawb.social 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why does the article compare kilograms of food instead of equivalent calorie amounts?

The study provides data per 100g of protein, which seems like more useful comparison.

[–] Karjalan@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Why is every meat called by it's food name (beef, mutton, poultry etc) except for pork... Which is "pig meat"?

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is beef a name for cows used outside of food?

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

Yep. Growing up in cattle country, you'd hear ranches brag about how many beef cattle they're raising, and it gets shortened to "I've got 30k heads of beef this season".

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Maybe to differentiate from pork in general and products made with pork (Bacon, sausages...).

Just a thought, no source

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What about manflesh? Would this be rated high CO2 content, or low because eating the emitter is probably one of the best ways to get emissions down.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

A connoisseur, I see.

[–] Hirom@beehaw.org 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

There are other reasons to buy local-ish. If you're lucky, local farms have stricter labor and environmental regulations, ie use less pesticides and better treat workers, than oversea farmers.

That being said it make sense to focus on eating less beef and lamb products.

[–] bitteroldcoot@piefed.social 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

For many years after I retired I didn't drive at all. I could go a month without using the car. Really was proud of myself for saving the planet.

Then my health went to hell. I'm always driving to the doctor, and eating a lot of beef (anemic). I'm actually tired of eating beef. But the other option is transfusions, so carbon footprint be damned.

Give me a couple of years and I'll show how to reduce carbon footprint. It's not going to look pretty thought.

But as others have said, how much carbon footprint does Bezos yacht have?

[–] towerful@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

But as others have said, how much carbon footprint does Bezos yacht have?

This is my conclusion as well.
I am conscientious about what I use/buy/eat, preferring local products even if they cost a bit more. I like walking and public transport is super convenient.

As long as I'm not buying Nestlé (as much as I can, I'm still surprised by finding Nestlé products). Fuck Nestlé

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m actually tired of eating beef.

Would beef-liver supplements (like in pill form) be enough iron to replace the beef?

[–] bitteroldcoot@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They carry their own problems. I tried several iron supplements. Weirdly, a common side effect is excruciating back pain. Just eating unprocessed beef works best.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago

Ah, bummer :(

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I get this. My wife has medical issues and we can't exactly walk everywhere and she can't ride a bike at all comfortably. We actually put a lot of time into finding something that would work and she hurt herself. Granted we were looking at affordable options.

[–] bassicvgyn@lemmy.vg 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sorry that happened that must have been a real bummer.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

well yeah its our life situation and others have worse.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You can see this directly from the Iran war effects: peaking oil prices and fossil scarcity are harming food production more globally (via fertilizers, pesticides, tractors) than transporting it.

[–] Nighed@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago

I didn't realise sheep farted so much!

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

Why in fuck would you oversimplify to that extent? Clearly many factors matter when purchasing food.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago

Although I get the point, I can’t help but think this chart would be more effective if the colors were labeled.