made this a while ago, thought it applies here too:
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I'll credit you, but I'm gonna use this meme format from now on. Thank you, this is absolutely beautiful.
If leftists aren't calling each other libs, then we're calling each other tankies. Pick an insult and throw it at anyone that doesn't want to do the same type of fighting Nazis as you want to do.
Tankie > Lib
This is kind of easily explained :
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Evil does not care if you're not 100% evil. If you're tainted even a little, that's good enough for them.
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Good is obsessed with purity. If you are imperfect, or if you disagree on any point, they consider you tainted and play right into Evil's hand.
And yes, Left vs Right is just Good vs Evil, I don't think that's an unpopular statement here.
There's no such thing as good or evil. Everyone thinks they're good. And trust me neonazis are pretty obsessed with purity
thank you. yeah the "good is obsessed with purity" part made my skin crawl
I agree but Nazis will accept anyone until itβs time for their trip to the camps and chambers.
Also not true. These people have blood feuds and shootouts with each other mate. You can even see this playing out in real life on Xitter daily.
Proud Boys was literally headed by a black man.
What's your point?
If they were so obsessed with purity, they wouldn't follow a black man.
This isn't how it works. Not every fascist is the same. This in fact why there's constant infighting between the fash.
Yet we see one of the most destructive judges of the SCOTUS being black and the leader of the German right wing extremist party AFD being a lesbian in a relationship with a woman of color. These are just 2 examples on the top of my mind.
The guys on top are united by pure greed, the guys on bottom are united mostly by being brainwashed to perceive a common enemy.
The guys at the top share class interests. That's what unites them, not ideology. The ones at the top just say whatever needs to be said (whatever will benefit the plutocracy) to get to the top. But they're not united at all. As soon as cracks appear, they turn on each other. I just don't see this unity the OP is talking about. The problem is not that "evil is united". The problem is that it's too easy to propagandize vast amounts of the population when one controls the narrative through wealth and centralized media.
People need to accept imperfect allies
Also what are you going to do with the Evil people? Better have them turn to your side. If they don't have the option because they've been on Evil side then there's no incentive for them to change, on the contrary. Does this mean criminals get out free? Of course not, it means hiring criminals after their sentence; treating them like people. Not throwing them out of society forever marked as Evil. Some won't change for sure, but that doesn't mean we should treat everyone the same and refuse to take what we can rather than have them support more Evil because they're forever tainted and refused the opportunity to change
I think using the basic approach that everything, including evil, is on a spectrum.
My biggest issue with people that at least presents themselves very loudly and publicly as left is that they call anyone that mildly disagrees with them right wing. And to them right wing, even center right, equals extreme right equals Nazis.
Iβm not sure whether these people are too dumb to recognize they paint themselves into a corner all the time, are useful indoors idiots for the extreme right or worse some ultra right wing uboots.
If you want to shift society to the left, which is needed worldwide, you canβt be ultra purist holier than thou in your approach.
tl;dr: Evil is not an absolute.
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I like to view it as Left vs Right is just People vs Machine.
That's a badass way to view it and I'm here for it π―
I'm happy you like it :)
Think we should move away from politics, and focus on the more practical, economic changes. Like helping each other have less workload, creating victory gardens, and so on.
Practical and economic changes are literally politics
Unless it's a seemingly apolitical group of permaculture farmers, and the like, helping each other out.
But im an organized, near-industrial way.
Except leaderless, so no bribes and "accidents".
Nothing to feel threatened by or latch onto, until the momentum is too strong.
Commies never question why vanguarding burojacketing disenfranchises solidarity π€¦
What the fuck is a borujacketing
borujacketing
Maybe alapakala meant bad jacketing?
Edit: Removed pronouns
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I question it all the time and it's exhausting to watch others fall for it.
Communists and Liberals are natural enemies!
Like Fascists and Communists!
Or Social Democrats and Communists!
Or Anarchists and Communists!
Or Communists and other Communists!
Damn Communists! They ruined Communism!
sounds like something a fuckin' lib would say π€¨π€
MLs splintering and accusing each other of liberalism is a time honored tradition
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Isn't the whole idea of communism liberal though?
Yes as in fighting for liberty for all.
No as in liberalism, the political ideology. Liberalism the ideology normally embraces markets, private property, and liberal democracy.
Markets allow individuals to hoard wealth at the expense of everyone else, and are therefore anti-socialist. They also use money for their operation, which in turn does not agree with communism.
Private property (not to be confused with personal property) is specifically the property you use to extract profit, typically by exploiting the labor of others and paying them less than they earned you. This is, obviously, also anti-socialist and anti-communist.
Liberal democracy is problematic, because the wealthy have oversized control over the media, wide lobbying power, and other ways to convert money into influence. In this system, the voices of the common people are drowned in what billionaires want. Communists and socialists instead propose dictatorship of the proletariat - not a proletarian dictator, but proletariat as a class (all workers) together ruling the country and deciding only among themselves in how their place or country operates.
I know the terms can be confusing, but here's the gist: "liberal democracy" is not democratic, because the wealthy have outsized control over the decisions made, the media coverage, etc. Dictatorship of the proletariat denies the wealthy business owners their political rights, thereby boosting the voices of the common people. This should lead to workers taking over and ruling everything themselves, democratizing workplace and society at large.
No? π Liberals are capitalists
I think it goes hand in hand with call out culture, it's good to try and hold people accountable or be critical of ideas -- but too many people push it too far for their own vanity or ego
It's so frustrating. Time and again in democracies, we're shown that most people are best served by the policies of the left. But the left keep losing with breathtaking consistency, because of ignorance and infighting. If the politically aware were able to compromise with each other enough to organise and campaign, they would be able to inform the politically ignorant enough to walk every election.
Communists and liberals should be able to find some common ground and just work from there, instead of focusing on their differences. This is what the right does, and that's why it's winning.
In the current timeline, in the current atmosphere, if I can agree with someone 50.1% of the time, that's good enough for now. After we get literal fucking fascists out of power we can have a debate about if Grannie and Grampa renting out their guest cottage to finance their diabetes medications count as the same kind of landlords and deserve the same amount of vitriol as Blackstone.
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