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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/47052375

To understand how a New York City private jet tax could actually be implemented, you need to understand who controls the airports.

The Port Authority is a bi-state agency jointly controlled by the governors of New York and New Jersey with an annual operating budget of $10.1 billion and a proposed $45 billion capital plan from 2026 – 2035. It operates JFK, LaGuardia, Newark Liberty, and Teterboro — all rated high tax-risk under current political conditions. Teterboro Airport, which does not allow scheduled airline flights and only services private flights, handles approximately 177,000 arrivals and departures annually.

Westchester County Airport (HPN) is not a Port Authority facility. It is owned and operated by Westchester County — outside Mamdani’s direct political sphere and outside the joint gubernatorial control structure of the Port Authority. This makes it the most insulated major reliever airport in the New York metro under current political conditions.

Republic Airport (FRG) on Long Island is New York State property — its vulnerability depends on whether Governor Hochul aligns with Mamdani’s agenda, which remains an open question.

Key policy context: The Port Authority has the authority to set fees, surcharges, and access terms at its facilities without requiring standard legislative processes in many scenarios. The question isn’t just whether a tax gets proposed — it’s whether the mechanism to implement it already exists. In many cases, it does.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 134 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Good. Whoever owns a private jet can afford to participate in the funding of the city.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Damn. I'm 9 minutes too late to make the same comment.

[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Do it anyway. You only live once. I'll upvote it no matter how many times it's posted.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago

Good. Whoever owns a private jet can afford to participate in the funding of the city.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'll upvote it no matter how many times it's posted.

Infinite points exploit unlocked

How do we call them here anyway?

[–] Asafum@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Upperlemmerdings and Downerlemmerdingos are the very serious technical terms.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 days ago

You got upperlemmerdinged by me for such an informative post

[–] lime@feddit.nu 7 points 2 days ago

short form, of course

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 days ago

I believe they're called doots, as in updoots and downdoots

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 90 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Are we sure this isn’t the onion? The article is worth a read, what a bunch of absolute gems!

If you own an apartment in New York and don’t live there full-time, you’re taxed. If your heirs inherit assets in New York, they’re taxed at thresholds that now reach the upper middle class. The logical extension of this trajectory — and the question the entire private aviation industry should be asking — is: what about the $70 million jet you landed at Teterboro this morning?

No! Say it ain’t so! Rich dips being taxed as much as gasp the upper middle class??? and that’s nothing, now they want to tax your 70 million dollar jet? Thats not even the nice one! Why even own it anymore???? Taxes on property? I mean, you’re not even using it! How dare they tax it!

This isn’t about airspace. It’s about politics. And the pattern is unmistakable.

The author is so close! It’s not about politics, it’s about people realizing that the rich people are trash and are strangling the rest of us. So fuck your private jets, fuck your entitled ass for being outraged at having to pay taxes on your manhattan vacation home or whatever has you so worked up over the pied-à-terre tax. I hope you choke on the gold leaf you put on your bagels or whatever. If the masses get hungry enough, they are going to eat you.

[–] NRay7882@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not really a surprise, the article was written by a CEO of a private jet company.

[–] hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

bro is just trying to sell charter flights to other rich fucks. it's an ad.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If I have to pay taxes on my labor they can pay it on their luxuries. At least I'm doing something useful for this country.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tbf, it could also be a little about airspace. Teterboro, JFK, and LaGuardia make for some of the busiest and most crowded airspace in the world. I'm sure ATC would love not having to deal with the extra headache of vectoring around planes with 200 people in them for the sake of some stuffy fuck in his private jet.

[–] chillpanzee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's not about airspace at all. ATC (part of the FAA) isn't funded by airport landing/handling/ramp fees. Controllers wouldn't ever get any of this money, and they probably wouldn't care either way, other than that directionally less traffic probably means smaller federal budget allocations for ATC.

As things go, ATC is pretty egalitarian. If you fly up in hour homebuilt carbon cub, they'll give you the same respect and attention that they give Delta or JetBlue. Private jets don't get special treatment. If anything, ATC gives you favorable treatment for being knowledgeable, predictable, communicative, and not actin the fool.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

And that's the whole point. Why should 10 private jets with total of 10 passengers get 10x more attention than a single airbus with 300 passengers?

[–] auntieclokwise@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The reason is that each of those private jets is a missile that, if not given appropriate attention, can run into any of the airliners. From an ATC POV, a plane is a plane - they all need to be kept separate. Some of them have different characteristics, to be sure. But they all have to be managed for the safety of everyone. Now, it could be a different argument as to whether you should allow private jets in really busy airspace. But if you let them in, you have to manage them, same as everyone else.

Oh fuck, this absolutely ruins all of my private jet related plans, damn.

[–] xSikes@feddit.online 43 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can tax all my jets! You’re more than welcome to.

[–] abrake@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

The law, in it's majestic equality, imposes taxes on the private jets of the poor and the rich. - Anatole France or something

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I saw a Fox News talking head arguing with Ro Khanna the other day, and she attacked Mamdani by saying the top 1% already pay 45% of the city's tax revenues. Bitch, the top 1% controls 90% of the wealth.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I've got a proposal: flat tax + UBI.

Flat tax, everybody everywhere pays the same tax rate on ALL THE THINGS every time. Simple as imaginable, one tax rate collected on every transaction. One tax rate collected on every holding. All this "tax rebate incentive" legislation? Call it what it is: incentive legislation. Keep the incentives, but structure them equally for all people, not just as tax dodges for people who pay a lot of taxes.

UBI, all citizens, regardless of needs, income or any other criteria - are you alive? are you a citizen? You get the same UBI as every other citizen. But the rich don't need UBI - no they don't, and they pay plenty of taxes, they still get UBI too - if they don't like it, they can donate it to charity - not for a tax break - but because it feels good.

Own 90% of the wealth? Pay 90% of the taxes, that's how it works. You get the same UBI as everybody else.

[–] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The funny thing with financial aid is that it is possible to spend more money figuring out who isn't eligible than it would cost to just give it to more people

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And it's not even a rare occurrence. It's so common that being cheaper is one of the most common arguments in favor of schemes like UBI or universal single-payer healthcare.

Of course the most common (but unspoken) counterargument is that distressingly many people would prefer to make everyone worse off to make sure people who "don't deserve it" don't get paid.

[–] smh@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Unironicly, Mr. Doolittle's speech in My Fair Lady convinced me that aid should be given to both the "deserving" and "undeserving" needy.

What am I? I ask you, what am I? I'm one of the underserving poor, that's what I am. Now, think what that means to a man. It means he's up against middle-class morality for all the time. If there's anything going, and I puts in for a bit of it, it's always the same story: you're undeserving, so you can't have it. needs is as great as the most deserving widows that ever got money out of six different charities in one week for the death of the same husband. need LESS than a deserving man, I need MORE. less hearty than he does, and I drink... oh, a lot more.

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[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Flat tax rates are furthering inequality, because poor people have to use up a far larger percentage of their disposable income on necessities, effectively paying way more taxes. All the while, rich people can save much more.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Sounds completely straightforward that if you own 90% of the wealth, you pay 90% of the tax. And they'll fight you till the bitter end to convince everybody otherwise.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 days ago (3 children)

My private jet?!

Oh my god!

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[–] dan69@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Amen to that brother, every second it’s in an ny airport it should be charged a dollar and flat rate of 15 mins 1500$

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 10 points 1 day ago

Good, nobody should have one to begin with.

[–] Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The opinions expressed in Fortune.com commentary pieces are solely the views of their authors and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and beliefs of Fortune.

This is Greg Raiff's first piece for Fortune's user-generated content program. He appairs to be the CEO of a charter jet company.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'd dispute that it doesn't reflect the opinions and beliefs of Fortune, though, based on this:

gestures towards everything they've ever published

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Needs more breathless adulation of wealthy sociopaths.

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[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago
[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Army of people making under $30k a year about to come out of the woodwork to scream about how bad this is for the economy

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

Faux Nooz: Rich people paying rich people to tell middle-class people to blame poor people.

[–] DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They are temporarily embarrassed billionaires.

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[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Guess I'm just going to have to sell that sucker, I'm hoping to get 8 figures off of it, but I'll honestly be happy with 6. What will I ever do....

[–] GarboDog@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Ok? A reasonable person doesn’t have a fucn private jet and those who do should pay taxes???? We’re people owning large polluting private vehicles not paying taxes????

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Good, I hope he takes it

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 days ago

I really hate this because one day I might have a private jet maybe

[–] DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Surely no one is this out-of-touch with reality. This must've been written by a leftist in disguise just to make rich people look clueless.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 days ago

He sells charter flights. The cheaper and more sensible alternative to outright owning a private jet without having to see plebs on your plane, with like a tiny bit less flexibility.

The private jet tax might actually benefit him, he's now taking advantage of it to pull attention to charter flights.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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Tax them more! And demand that they be inspected for compliance with NY, NYC, and NJ laws every time! Catch the pedo bastards before they leave their wasteful, reckless, planet-destroyers.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Oh no! Not my private jet!

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