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A case study in why credentials are revoked before firings.

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[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 15 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, what else could they do with that keyboard.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

That's like a huge key at least with 2.5x the size of a normal using USB C to estimate the ratio.

[–] zeroConnection@programming.dev 45 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

Muneeb Akhter asked Sohaib Akhter for the plaintext password

The more scary part in this story is that the government stores your passwords in plain text!

So basically ANYONE with access to the database can steal your credentials, including employees, the government and any authorities.

Never re-use passwords.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

Every place I have worked, most of HR and like half of finance/accounting has access to your social security number, full address and phone number. Sometimes even the password and security questions you used for whatever BS portal they made you setup an account in.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Never heard of hashing and salting apparently

[–] zeroConnection@programming.dev 8 points 17 hours ago

"Oh yeah we did that at the last company barbeque event. They hashed and salted all the steaks"

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 76 points 1 day ago (4 children)

And why couldn’t they have done that to the student loans system?

Like JFC, they could have instantly made themselves immune from trial-by-jury anywhere in America by doing that one tiny thing.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 points 42 minutes ago* (last edited 42 minutes ago)

Student loans are loans from third party lenders which are cosigned by the federal government for collateral.

Even if every government record of it were destroyed, the loan servicers would have perfect multiple ledger copies of it all.

[–] ApertureUA@lemmy.today 16 points 22 hours ago

Probably not one of the 96 databases they had :(

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 3 points 18 hours ago

Peter Thiel probably has a backup copy now from doge unfortunately.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Wasn't that a premise in Mr Robot?

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

It was kinda the premise of Fight Club, although private sector instead of public

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 82 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Back in 2015, the brothers pled guilty in Virginia to a scheme involving wire fraud and computers. Muneeb was sentenced to three years in prison, while Sohaib got two.

I'm not gonna say there were signs that these two weren't the most law abiding of citizens, buuuuut...

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I briefly worked with a government client that would bring in prison laborers to collect trash. From the IT building of the tax agency.

But don't worry, they were just white collar criminals. You know, people who only went to jail for stealing... financial data... The very thing that was accessible in that building.

Genius.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 points 8 hours ago

I don't think that you'd be able to do much with that information as a prisoner.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 6 points 19 hours ago

Company only paid for a 7 year background check, so you mis them getting out of prison 8 years ago.

[–] VOwOxel@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 day ago

Oh I'm sure the government loved taking them, since >Half of all Politicians are corrupt fraudsters.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 6 points 23 hours ago

wire fraud

Relatives of El Nasir?

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[–] Cytobit@piefed.social 115 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Why were they storing passwords in plaintext in the databases?!

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 41 minutes ago

Pretty sure thats part of the illegal thing done by these two, no?

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 118 points 1 day ago

First time reading about government systems, eh?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because like all critical infrastructure it was setup by somebody's kid on work experience

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 11 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Or some poor guy who is setting it up, because it is a one off and just get it done project, that metastasizes into a fucking mess.

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[–] WereCat@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why not? National Safety Department of Slovak Republic (Narodny Bezpecnostny Urad) had password NBUSK123… just government things

No, that was a bit different.
login: nbusr
password: nbusr123

[–] msage@programming.dev 10 points 1 day ago

The K in password doesnt match Republic in the name.

Totally secure.

It's like leaving your car door unlocked in a bad neighborhood so your window doesn't get smashed for the $.36 in the center console. Attacker might take the prize and go without showing that everything around it is just as poorly-built.

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[–] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 22 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Its always interesting when people are both very smart and also very stupid at the same time.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Knowledgeable and smart are not the same thing. These two are very knowledgeable about the systems they worked on and database manipulation, believe it or not these are not hard skills to learn. But they were incredibly dumb regardless given every single action they took at every point in their lives.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago (6 children)

Fun fact. In psychology assessment this are being called hard skills: very technical abilities for doing specialized tasks; and soft skills: social and emotional abilities to navigate social contexts, manage conflict and self regulate emotions.

Hard skills are easier to teach, while soft skills are very hard.

[–] Gumus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 21 hours ago

soft skills are very hard

🤔

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

There are certain positions I would probably be very good at from a technical perspective that I avoid because I know my myself. I could never work for the CIA or FBI for example. I don't want to know their secrets because they could have me weigh a duty to execute my job and protect my family against my duty to humanity. I don't know which principle I would betray, if grappling with it didn't kill me first. Some might think that's an easy choice but the personal cost is extreme — look at Snowden.

No, keep me far away from that shit. Let me grapple with intellectual problems all day long, but moral quandaries paralyze me.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Interesting, such a strong insight is actually part of soft skills. You know yourself, what you don't want to do and stick up to it for your own moral preservation.

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[–] pelya@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“Eh, they can recover from yesterday,” he said, referring to daily database backups.

But did they recover from backups? Don't leave the most juicy intrigue out of the story.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago

No one ever tested the backups so they don't know if they will work!

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 day ago

Only a living wage can prevent data dumps.

Upper management can't even see it...yet.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 points 8 hours ago

Probably all at once. My guess is they had the script ready to go.

[–] everett@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Try not to delete any databases on your way to the parking lot!

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago

Oops! All Databases

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

"I can't go out for a pack of smokes without running into 9 databases that you dropped!"

[–] elvith@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago

But I explicitly stated in the ~~CLAUDE.md~~ employee guidelines to not delete production databases!

[–] ApeNo1@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Redundant twin brothers to handle the redundant twin backups.

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