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[–] ghosts@hexbear.net 16 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Calling Platner a Nazi is not a "smear" it is a fact. Calling attention to the fact that he's a Nazi didn't work because liberals do not consider Nazism to be disqualifying. Just like they didn't consider committing genocide to be a deal-breaker when supporting Kamala Harris.

[–] InexplicableLunchFiend@hexbear.net 13 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Ukraine normalized Liberal-Nazism to such an extent the libs don't even care about swastikas anymore. They just shrug and say 'what are ya gonna do, oppose the nazis?'

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 20 minutes ago

My coworker donates to Azov and when I called him out on it (because he loves being a lib and talking politics at work) he said it's the lesser of two evils

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Because the reasonable "smears" such as the fact that he is an imperialist baby killer with no regrets; Americans don't care about it because even so called "progressives" refuse to see non whites as people.

[–] SickSemper@hexbear.net 10 points 5 hours ago

Even so called “leftists.” Anything for a bigger slice of the imperial pie

[–] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 13 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

So how long until they do a piece called yes they are an out and about nazi running as a dem, but here's why you need to vote for them to stop trump.

Closer to elections or during the 2028 presidential primaries?

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Killing immigrants is a marxist position actually is what they’re going with

[–] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 3 points 5 hours ago

But they love that. Why would the dems or gop demonize it

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 17 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Ben Burgis is [...] the author of several books, most recently Christopher Hitchens: What He Got Right, How He Went Wrong, and Why He Still Matters.

Neocon gonna neocon. It is truly embarassing to be platforming this kind of swine.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 14 points 7 hours ago

Trot to neocon pipeline vindicated yet again

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 34 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

"Why the Smears Against Graham Platner Didn’t Work"

Because the Amerikkkan people are too much of a hitlerite people to care about killing people in the global south amerikkka

[–] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 8 points 6 hours ago

you don't understand it's common for stupid military people to get one and keep it. Plus um acksually it wasn't really one because it's slightly wrong even though he immediately covered it and didn't show it off to prove that you can't say it was a nazi SS skull

https://lemmy.world/comment/23616129

sunrisepirate @piefed.social

Apparently the accusations of him being Nazi stem from a tattoo he got while on shore leave. Seems like pretty slim evidence. From the article:

Instead, the accusation is entirely based on a skull and crossbones tattoo that Platner got when he was a young Marine on shore leave in Croatia. He and a friend picked the design off the wall of the tattoo parlor. Unfortunately, he chose a Totenkopf, the skull and crossbones configuration used by the Nazi SS. If you do a Google search for “how to tell Totenkopf from other skull and crossbones designs,” you’ll learn that it has a “more articulated lower jaw” and more “defined” teeth than skulls used in other designs. I’m willing to take it on faith that there are people who can tell at a glance which jawline is which, but I am not one of them — and neither, unfortunately, was Platner.
[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 9 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Because the Amerikkkan people are too much of a hitlerite people to care about killing people in the global south

To give the people of Maine a modicum of credit, it’s not like anyone else on the ballot is significantly different on that front policy-wise. Platner just has a more vulgar history with it. Which isn’t to justify him, just that he wasn’t particular in that regard.

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 4 points 7 hours ago

it's like, i don't want to justify a guy who had a nazi tattoo and worked as a merc for the great satan, but i'm ok with any triage that involves stopping the genocide of mostly children? surely we don't need to say that the democratic party is so identically the same as the republican party that electing a guy who the democratic party hates for being against funding genocide is the same as electing a lady who has on her record funding genocide.

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 18 points 9 hours ago

maybe dont get a nazi tatoo if you dont want to get called nazi?

speaking of which, that's another thing that amerikkkans don't care about. the smears didn't work because maine is an extremely white, extremely rural state. the only nazi symbol the average person can recognize and then bring themselves to feel something about is a swastika. otherwise people would (rightly) be making a much bigger and more constant deal about hegseth's equally fascist crusader tattoos.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 28 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

He had a totenkopf for what, 15 years? And he only got it covered up after massive backlash

Glossing over that little 'smear', there is the whole debacle of who he is, such as the time where he talked about how he'd have loved to have been more involved in infantry combat in places like Vietnam or Gulf War 1 (not WWII though, how weird), how he deployed like 3 times(?), once as a PMC, the reddit account where he made racist as fuck comments...

I dunno, maybe the guy who had a Nazi tat for a third of his life, explicitly avoided saying he wanted to fight the Nazis (but really liked killing!), and was/is a racist asshole is maybe a Nazi

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 12 points 10 hours ago

Yeah, but he promised to give us stuff maybe! smuglord

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 9 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

it is kind of wild how many jewish people he was openly wearing that tattoo around who didn't know it was a nazi tattoo. people from fascist countries like the u.s. and isntrael aren't taught anything. i'm pretty sure that for most amerikkkans, the only nazi symbol they can identify is the swastika.

don't take this as an excuse for platner, but the reality of doing multiple tours with blackwater is way more damning to me since he actually knowingly did that shit 100% for real than a tattoo that he genuinely could have gotten without knowing its origins.

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 10 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

people from fascist countries like the u.s. and isntrael aren't taught anything

That is genuinely not an exucse here .The totenkopf he was sporting is in like every fucking nazi thing, you can't watch a ww2 documentary without seeing it, you can't play a ww2 themed game without seeing it, fuck man you can't even look at memes without seeing it (It's on the hat in the "Are we the baddies" meme/sketch) it's up there with the double sig rune and the wolfsangel. Hipster nazis use like the crossed stick grenades

[–] Are_Euclidding_Me@hexbear.net 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I can give you my experience with the totenkopf as a clueless american: no doubt I saw it in war movies, WW2 photos, and such, but the first time my attention was brought to it was the "are we the baddies" sketch. And when I watched that sketch, I truly thought the skull on their hats was hyperbole, to make the sketch funnier. I truly had no idea that nazi hats actually had a skull on them until like 5 years ago. Ridiculous stuff, truly!!

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

until like 5 years ago.

Coincidences with the age of the site

[–] Are_Euclidding_Me@hexbear.net 6 points 6 hours ago

Yeah, could be off a bit either direction, but yeah, that's about right! A general time of learning/radicalization for me

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

i assure you, you are genuinely wrong, most people aren't seeing that, and most people that are aren't looking that closely. the average person just sees a skull and thinks about all the skulls in all the different military stuff and puts it in that box. they do not recognize the totenkopf specifically. excuse, not excuse, i don't care to try and litigate what one man does and doesn't know, but the population writ large doesn't know this.

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 7 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

You (As in you, the person with whom I am conversing) misunderstand. You (The general you, not you specfically) can not know.But the reason you (See prior note) don't know isn't because your middle and high school teachers failed you, if you consumed basically any media about or referencing ww2 you saw this symbol and it was used to denote a nazi. This information was not hidden, it was not secret, the issue here is not a failure of the education system.

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

ok that's not the point i'm making, i'm not saying it was secret. i'm saying that the schools choose not to teach people explicitly about even a small survey of nazi symbols beyond the nazi swastika, and the average person does not pay close enough attention to pick up on this distinction themselves, and therefore they do not.

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm not gonna defend the american education system. But this just is not one of their failures. This wasn't obscured or obscure, this wasn't kept from anyone, this was in fact promulgated and presented to people at numerous points and covered western pop culture and every single piece of visual media that involves nazis.
Its fine to not know, but the reason people don't know is because they haven't taken an interest. Which honestly is fine to me, but I dont accept the excuse it is caused by a failure in the school system.

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

i'm telling you man, it really wasn't. my wife took a class on THE HOLOCAUST and wasn't taught about different nazi symbols. i just showed her a totenkopf, no clue. other than the swastika, which she's over my shoulder telling me she knows about. please. you cannot insist that people learn this in general.

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I am insisting on no such thing. I just told you not knowing is both fine and normal. I am saying the reason people don't know is because they dont care to know. Not because they were not presented with the option to learn this information.

Your wife may have been failed by her teachers though. Since she did seek out information about the nazis. When your wife took her class on the holocaust, did they not look at nazi uniforms (The SS or SD hats for instance), mention Theodor Eicke, the designer of Dachau and the inspiration for all subsequent concentration camps, executioner of Rohm and commander of the Totenkopf division a division of former concentration camp guards? Could she recognise the triangles of the concentration camps? The double sig rune? The nazi reichsadler/parteiadler?

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

edit: i'm genuinely not sure i understand what you've been disagreeing with me on? is it that the education system didn't teach people to recognize a totenkopf, or that they shouldn't? because they didn't successfully do so, and i'm saying they should have made a point to.

ok, since this apparently isn't clear to you somehow, when i say that normal people don't recognize this symbol because fascist societies don't teach people anything, i'm making the implicit claim that i think they should. i'm not saying that they tried not to show people. i'm not saying people were denied the opportunity to see it during the education. i'm saying that if people were taught to recognize it then they would, but recognizing symbols used by any existing white supremacist militant groups isn't a priority in fascist society. i'm not denying that people have seen the totenkopf: i'm saying it's not surprising that they don't pick up on it being a specific nazi design. my wife has obviously seen the totenkopf before. she didn't realize it was a design that was specific to the nazis. because normies don't notice symbols they aren't taught to notice. i have no clue what you're even arguing with me about if you agree with that, which you seem to. i don't know why you took this entire conversation as apparently a condemnation of the education system in terms of practice and not design or something.

Not because they were not presented with the option to learn this information.

no man, the point is they didn't learn because normies don't learn anything you don't beat them over the head with, and obviously they should be beat over the head with recognizing hate symbols. which again, you seem to be saying as well, i'm really confused what point you're even fighting.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

if it was shitty quality i'm not going to look super closely at some dipshit inlaw's body

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 8 points 10 hours ago

i mean i think these people are on the record as saying they weren't aware of the totenkopf as a symbol. i'm not sure if the relative quality of an albanian, nazi tattoo parlor is relevant to that.

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 15 points 10 hours ago

Jacobin, Nazi apologists

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 23 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

accusation is entirely based on a skull and crossbones tattoo

entirely

^entirely^

might just be his material existence in the real world of actually existing fired mortar rounds in fallujah? fucks sake.

blow up an apc factory (by firing a mortar round in the packaging zone), then i'll believe in redemption. or don't be elected as one of 100 most important persons in empire.

many vets who saw friends killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, he drew the obvious conclusion about starting similar wars going forward

presumably if they don't see their friends getting killed, then it's all good? fucking ben burger

*that's not even the worst possibility, the worst possibility he is peter thiel plant infiltrating the left, just complete lmayo then

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 18 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] plinky@hexbear.net 17 points 10 hours ago

where he was recruited to infiltrate left-wing spaces and his hasan-ok-dude "epic" posting started around then, wake up sheeple illuminati

[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 21 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

"A bad tattoo choice"

Mmm, yeah, ok. Whatever makes you demsocs feel better.

[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 22 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

A shrek tatoo is a bad tatoo choice, a fucking Nazi Totenkopf is something entirely else. Thats not a dogwhistle thats a foghorn

[–] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 8 points 7 hours ago (3 children)
[–] Emmi@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 5 hours ago

example of a *good tattoo

fixed it for you

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 9 points 6 hours ago

how

Surely he means WHY would he cover this up?

[–] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 6 points 6 hours ago

Which is still better than the one he got to cover up the SS skull

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 hours ago

Answer: The average amerikkkan loves nazis