Stocks should still be abolished, but billionaires first.
this post was submitted on 07 May 2026
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We should have a race to see which one we can get rid of first. Some nice healthy competition.
Maybe a useful distinction to be had between “capitalist class” and “enthusiasts for the capitalist system”
The word is used for both of those things.
AI Sloppaganda
Oh sweet. I'm petty bourgeoise!
Seriously this low effort slop graphic is cringe
It’s a fair point but is it wrong?
I don't disagree with the overall message of the "pamphlet", I take issue with its execution. It's low quality, low effort media, created with the same technology that the ruling class is currently employing to steal from workers, cut their bargaining power, alienate them from their work and from each other, shirk legal and moral accountability, and destroy the environment.
That’s all valid criticism. Im happy to say I didn’t create it, and I would love to see better. I’m a bit inclined to delete the image, but I’d love to find an alternative.
Most that I can find are more outdated and tend to assume people know the meanings of the various terms. And the other one I added (down thread) is a little too fine-grained for my taste.
Its outdated and even in its time it didnt show important and big groups such as police, military and peasants.
i mean it’s words basically come from Capital, and some other texts…
Love the iconography.
waves from the trash can
So upper middle class professionals who live in fancy houses making 200k with lots of investments are just proletariat in this classification?
I feel like they have kinda different interests.
They may think they do due to years of brainwashing and propaganda. But labor is labor at the end of the day.
Yeah, I fall in that category, and even though I own a tiny fraction of various companies, I don’t control the means of production. I sell my labor. The fact that I get paid more for it doesn’t change that, and to those that do control the means of production, I am just as disposable. That’s why I have to save and invest; to give myself a way to support my family when that happens.
Maybe bougie petites? The stock market is way more accessible now compared to Marx's time and by tying retirement to it (401Ks and similar) it really forces a lot of people to invest in the idea of capitalism.
The term is labor aristocracy
Honestly: yes.
There’s other classifications or sub-classifications particularly with regards to how much someone may benefit from capitalism and therefore where their interests might lie, but ultimately I think the bourgeoisie vs the proletariat is about how much influence they have over how society works.
Here’s another infographic which tries to cover that angle, no comment on how successful/ accurate it may be. Personally I think it divides people too much. (Source: Reddit, latestagecapitalism)
doctors, lawyers, tech bros, small business owners, drop shippers, celebrities: they are also petite-bourgeois.
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I trade stocks. I'm not a capitalist.
I don't want to have to work, but I want there to not be billionaires even more. Tax wealth not work.
Also if you’re not participating in shareholders meetings, proposing resolutions and voting on them, then you’re not even really owning the stock in any meaningful way. You’re just holding a virtual piece of paper hoping the number goes up.
Don’t know if they’re still doing it but a small IBM shareholder used to annually table a motion that all payments to political parties and individuals be explained, and the board kept recommending a “No” vote.
Why are those share holder meetings the important part of "owning the stock" to you? Aren't people owing stock because they want dividends or because they expect the value to increase? Isnt profit them main motivation? With profit being reliant on workers and earth exploitation?
I trade stocks, I hate billionaires. We're all deeply contrarian animals if you examine things using only absolutes.
edit: I should make a post about this somewhere, but you can really directly correlate the pantheon of ancient greece to the stock market. Corporations are immortal entites that are not subject to human law. Stock prices have inflated far beyond the value of their goods and services and instead represent belief in that company. it's a bit discouraging, I guess is why I wouldn't post about it.
Yeah, I definitely don't make a significant portion of my income from investments...
I got tree fiddy in stocks and all my income is dividends and royalties. Sheeeeiiit
Gritty down 3-0 right now though, needs a miracle
Minor correction dear friend. The first number is wins. 0-3
you're petite-bourgeious!
Gritty has no soul. Believe not his lies.
Actually yeah it does. If your stock pays dividend you are getting a share of the workers labour.
If you have a... Fuck I'm tired. ESOP? It's that it? Employee Stock owner plan? That pays dividends. How do we split the hair on that camel?
Whats your complaint? Stocks are a way to make ownership available to workers.
Complaint?
I dont know what you mean by "how do we split the hair on that camel" so I just assumed you were complaining about stocks.
splitting hairs is a euphemism for pedantry and i like animal metaphors. one of my mentors always used an animal idiom instead of a regular saying when he could.
What does participating in the system we've been forced into have anything to do with class solidarity with the billionaires?
You are not forced to participate in rent seeking.
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If you own stocks you actually share some material interests with billionaires. You have to actually choose to act against parts your own interests when you support thr end of capitalism. So in part, you might have class solidarity with billionaires. And lets be real, in many rich countries exactly that is a problem.
Yeah nah, I am not joining the rent seeking class just because some meme says so.
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