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"If you kill a murderer, the number of murderers in the world stays the same"
Ignoring the obvious counter of "just kill more than 1 murderer", I think this quote exposes the flaw in this whole mentality.
No one cares about the number of murderers, we're trying to reduce the number of murders idiot. A very effective way of doing that is to kill mass murderers.
"As long as I'm not causing suffering for innocent people, I don't care how bad I supposedly am."
I don't do objective morality sorry
Especially annoying when the protagonist decides it would be wrong to kill the villain after spending the whole movie gunning down and snapping the necks of a few dozen henchmen.
"how else do you expect me to make milliond on a sequel??"
-super hero
the difference is the villain was hurting innocent people. the villain had it coming.
this is a post about capitalism
tbh I don't think the world is actually going to be saved by action movie heroes either
Not defending capitalists but killing capitalists doesn't solve any systemic problems producing capitalists. The system will just produce another Person who does the same
By the same logic, we shouldn't make anything illegal. Close the courts down, they have no purpose.
You have partly understood the Problem. Punishment in reality doesn't really prevent crime. Actually rehabilitation looks very different to what is practiced a lot today
yeah you're right actually.
There's always one or more people that say this but its really not complicated. I will continue to kill them until there are none left or someone kills me or I just die from anything really. Simple as.
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have you killed them before?
I don't know what you are talking about. I'm imaginary and don't exist in reality.
The people that are billionaires aren't inherently evil. Having power and wealth makes people want to increase the power and wealth. If the system isn't removed, people will still become billionaires and become assholes. Organizing strikes and resisting is much more effective at removing billionaires than killing the symptoms of the system.
The people that are billionaires aren’t inherently evil.
oh yes, many are
I would just like to note Mark Suckerberg as an example
The musk example happened after he got fame and wealth.
The Suckerberg example probably stems from his environment encouraging objectification at that time, thus making the platform very popular.
I would call the early idea of Facebook morally questionable but not evil in itself
The musk example happened after he got fame and wealth.
i don't see how that matters
oh and then there's the whole social media pushing rage and misinformation thing. add that to the list.
Musk wouldn't really have been this evil without wealth and power. Without it he would probably have been a common "weirdo" because of his abusive father but not a danger to minorities in general
The people that are billionaires aren’t inherently evil.
I sure would love to see some examples of the not evil billionaires you've mentioned.
Not what I meant, the aspect of having immense power and wealth makes evil decisions logical. I am trying to say that they are not evil from the start but that the capital is evil and turning them evil to achieve more profit and power
you know what, that might actually be. i remember reading sth along the lines of "the heavy burden of the crown" from old stories. when a king was crowned, their behavior could become significantly more grim. burden of the crown.
People who get high level of influence, wealth or power over others are more inclined to do morally incorrect things to increase or keep these things. It has been visible in history a lot and makes things make more sense further than just calling individuals evil or incompetent.
Materialism kinda follows this basic concept. Everything has an influence on the behavior and decisions of people or states. It is rarely individuals deciding to be evil or morally bad but their position or the general environment encouraging these decisions
Ok well they're still amoral scumbags who will absolutely not hesitate to continue killing and immiserating others to enrich themselves so I don't really care if killing them fixes every problem in the world or not.
Killing them fixes no problems at all it just changes the person doing the oppression. Changing the system fixes things.
Striking for better conditions or a change in the system does so much more for improving the situation than killing individual people who are produced by the system.
People aren't evil at birth, they become evil from profiting off the system. They are just symptoms of the sickness that is capitalism
A doctor treats both symptom and disease.
The disease is currently not treated so the symptoms just return after temporary treatment
You're right. Better to treat neither and let the disease kill you.
Well not what I said but treating the symptoms like this doesn't improve the chances of anything getting better. As was seen with the united healthcare CEO, it was only better for a few weeks/months before it returned back to the old state because the underlying systemical problems weren't removed. The material reality remains unchanged
The idea is to make the capitalists run out of people
The idea is to make billionaires terrified of being on the wrong side of wealth inequality. If billionaires were being hunted for sport, maybe there would be more former and would-be billionaires, now hypothetically just multi millionaires, that are paying fair wages to their employees, allowing their taxes to go towards education and social services, and donating large sums of money to effective charities simply to survive in a society that wouldn't want or need them otherwise.
They would just continue with the same shit but more covert and put more effort into not being a public figure.
Multi millionaires are rarely as charitable as you describe, there is always some kind of catch. Their objective is still accumulating capital.
It can only ever accomplish terrorism against a specific class of people(the ruling class), which can be effective or counterproductive depending on how it is done.