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[–] stoly@lemmy.world 11 points 5 hours ago

I love how everyone is so desperate to make Gabe to be a terrible person.

[–] commander@lemmy.world 28 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

We acting like people in the art community weren't hyped up over AI until they started generating images. Before chatgpt, it was all about automating coding/it and other jobs that arent considered art. Back then it was all about how everyone could pursue their passions. The only people not excited were all the transportation employees and factory workers that had been told by the general public how excited they were to replace them

[–] loonsun@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 hours ago

As a social scientist, pre Chat GPT NLP was like opening a whole new world of possibilities. We could finally at scale analyze one of the richest sources of behavioural data in an empirical statistically driven manner.

Now, even as I do research with NLP to continue these goals, I can't bring myself to every defend these tools. If they disappeared tomorrow, we'd lose a tool but we'd prevent so much undue suffering

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 29 points 10 hours ago

Was this article commissioned by Tim Sweeney?

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 77 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 17 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

The writing was on the wall for years. I remember memes about Altman in machine learning forums/chatrooms circa 2020, and especially 2021.

Nothing's changed. Anyone in the space who actually looked at what he was doing, knew. Yet the bulk of the public (and investors) lapped the Tech Bro stuff up.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Aaron Swartz said Altman was a sociopath years before AI was a gleam in anyone's eye.

The technologies with the worst potential outcomes will always be pioneered by people with no ethical or moral hangups getting in the way.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Which unfortunately are the same techs that will be elevated by our present economic structure, precisely because those traits are what enable them to make (or grift) a shitload of money.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

see:

Leaded Fuel and CFCs - the same fuckin guy!? goddamn hope there is a hell

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 213 points 15 hours ago (22 children)

Obligatory reminder that billionaires are not our friends. But also, donating to AI research in 2018 is quite a different matter than if he had done so in recent years. Most people in tech were somewhere between neutral and enthusiastic towards machine learning back then and few foresaw the monster it would become. Doubt he's as enthusiastic nowadays, considering what it did to Valve's hardware ambitions.

[–] greybeard@feddit.online 129 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

OpenAI, back then, was also a very different organization. They were mostly a non-profit, claiming to be a research organization who's goals were to ensure AI benefited all of humanity. Hell, I'd say Whisper, which that OpenAI did release, was very positive for humanity. It was when Sam Altman saw big dollar signs in GPT2+ that things started changing fast.

[–] zout@fedia.io 27 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Very much this, in 2023 there was a falling out between Altman and the board of OpenAI over this, and Altman was kicked out. However some big shareholders (Microsoft) made a stink and reversed it.

[–] timestatic@feddit.org 10 points 13 hours ago

I think many employees close to Altman also went to strike or theaten to leave. But I think he's bad for the (now) company. They should've stayed non-profit

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago (2 children)
[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 20 points 14 hours ago (17 children)

If you can mentally separate the technology from the capitalist orgy around trying to shoehorn LLMs into every possible thing, he's not wrong.

The technology has promise, but the reality of what it can be useful for is complete overshadowed by the hype frenzy declaring the end of all knowledge workers and creatives.

LLMs are significantly better at translation than anything we've been able to design, for instance. But that's not flashy, it doesn't generate seed funding or lure investors so it's largely not what people think of when they hear "AI".

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[–] 4grams@awful.systems 11 points 14 hours ago

Right, he might be a little further down, but he’s absolutely still on the list. There are no good billionaires.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 51 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, I probably would have invested in AI prior to seeing LLMs in action, too, hoping I was funding the cool kind of AI, not this lame shit.

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Look, there is one thing if does incredibly well. It makes a fantastic spelling checker.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I've also found a niche use if you are bi- or polylingual:

Write a paper, letter, etc. Paste it in and ask Chat to translate it into another language you know. Then translate it yourself back into your target language. All of the phrasing and word choice will be yours and consistent since it is done in one go, while your original paper may have been done in spurts over weeks.

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Hmm. I don't know enough to comment. While it sounds likely, I have heard complaints about translation, such as unexpected shifts in tone, etc.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I’ve done it a couple times and found that it worked well. I’d never use it as a translator for something official or formal but I have used it to help me translate specific words or phrases when I was unsure.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 58 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

At that time it was still kind of a research project than a "it's going to take over everything" hype and FUD machine.

His opinions on AI today seem more enthusiastic than I would be, but well clear of the delusional level of AI-boosters.

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 30 points 14 hours ago

Before OpenAI about faced on being open?

[–] timestatic@feddit.org 10 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Back then they were still deep into research and the Open part in their name actually meant something. I don't like much about Musk but I feel like its true that they deceived people that supported their initial mission just to go private when the market went haywire for AI. I feel like them shedding their non-profit status shouldn't have been an option as so many people donated to them in good faith

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