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[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 13 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Honestly, if an attacker has shell access you're toast regardless. I know you shouldn't be able to escalate privileges, but better to never let them on the machine.

Most security in industry only holds because employees have no interest in attacking, or knowledge how to attack, their employer.

[–] ShortN0te@lemmy.ml 7 points 15 hours ago

Honestly, thats a really bad take. Yes obviously, you should not let attackers access the terminal, but there are linux servers that rely on multiuser operations, like Servers that are meant for terminal access, like HPC.

Then services get hosted via container these days, so even with rootless containers you get root access if you only get RCE on one service. And even if there are additional VMs for more isolation between host, you still get root on the whole VM.

[–] Ophrys@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 16 hours ago

I work for a critical, global communications infrastructure company, and it's painfully obvious that the moment someone has a foothold they could do whatever they want with some minor skill lol.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago

Note that this is a rather narrow view of the scope of things.

Yes, the demonstrator is a python script that opens up 'su' and uses splice+this vulnerability to change it to 'just assume all privileges and become sh'.

However, it's that any process in any namespace can leverage a certain socket type and splice to effectively modify any filesystem content they want. It's easy to see how this could be part of a chained attack to, for example, replace a protected service that is firewalled off with a shell. An RCE in a service permits rewriting nginx in an entirely different container and replaces it with a shell backend of your choosing.

That 'flatpak' application on your single user system that is guarded from touching your files that aren't related? That isolation doesn't mean anything if this issue is in play.

In terms of shared systems, while it should be avoided if possible, practically speaking there's a lot of shared resources.

I don't get why I've seen so many people saying "ehh, no big deal, privilege escalation is just a fact of life".

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I've always though that the more popular linux becomes, the more vulnerabilities it will expose.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 15 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Basically every server runs linux already, so it's already a big target

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 hours ago

And also "Good. If they're found they'll be patched. Worry about the ones that 'aren't' 'found.'"

[–] czardestructo@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

For my trixie Debian boxes I just did a normal apt upgrade, rebooted, checked the kerenel with uname -r and confirmed it was 6.12.85-1. All set!

[–] Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

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Git Popular version control system, primarily for code
HTTP Hypertext Transfer Protocol, the Web
LTS Long Term Support software version
NAS Network-Attached Storage
nginx Popular HTTP server

4 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 8 acronyms.

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[–] TomasEkeli@programming.dev 1 points 10 hours ago

That's a good bot!

[–] Mondez 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This disclosure has been rushed for the views and hype IMO, none of the big distros had fixes ready to go on this this morning.

[–] purplemonkeymad@programming.dev 7 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Yea I didn't think the post was that professional. Also the "unminified" version is just the minified with more white space. It still has poor names and no explanation of the binary blob.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Looking at the binary blob, it's a payload to assume privileges as possible and exec sh. So replace su with that and the binary gets to use su's filesystem privileges without needing access to actually write it.

The vulnerability part is when the door opens to replace any file's read cache with arbitrary content. The binary payload is just an obvious example of the sort of payload that could do a ton of damage.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago

tbh they could have boasted even less bytes by just having everything in a zlib.decompress()

[–] ShortN0te@lemmy.ml 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The patches where proposed over a month ago and the patch to the kernel was commited on 1th of April.

Either the Vulnerability was not proper communicated to the distro maintainers or they were the ones sleeping.

This was probably executed as a responsible discllsure where clear timelines and release dates get communicated from the beginning.

I find it hard to blame the security team here when there was 1 month of time between first commited patch and release of the PoC.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

and the patch to the kernel was commited on 1th of April.

are you sure? what I have seen in git patch dates is 11th for the unreleased 7.0, and yesterday for the LTS versions

[–] ShortN0te@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

the debian cve tracker also links to that page, but they have written 7.0-rc7 besides it.

https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2026-31431

the openwall link has some comments that talk about the delayed patches, Greg KH also commented.

[–] ShortN0te@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago

7.0-rc7 is probably due to the 7.0 release early mid april. So the fix was in the mainline on 1st of April. The commit on 11th from GKH was probably due to the release.

I am not that familiar with the commit and release structure to get more into detail. But to me it clearly looks like the statement on copy.fail is correct, that the fix was in mainline on 1st of April.

From my point of view, I would suggest that maybe the communication downstream to the distros was not handled that well? But who would be to blaim? The researches that would need to communicate this issue to most existing distros? Linux maintainers? Distro maintainers?

Hard to say, without knowing the communication of the related mailinglists and disclousre etc.

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Dumb question but... It says that patches were committed to mainline on April 1st. How would one know if their distro has already fixed this via updates or not? I run a rolling-release distro on my desktop and laptop, and usually update once every week (or two at most) so have already ran updates 2 or 3 times since the patch was deployed. Am I likely good? If I'm not, is running updates all I need to do to be good? How would I know?

[–] thesmokingman@programming.dev 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The only guaranteed fix is in the kernel. You’ll want to check your distro for the CVE. The disclosers very happily bring up all the distros affected but do not seem to have reached out to any of them to also patch. The CVE itself is still waiting for NVD analysis beyond its base score.

I’m not actively saying they did anything wrong but I am saying they’re blowing smoke about responsible disclosure.

[–] Danitos@reddthat.com 10 points 1 day ago

They sell a vulnerability discovery program. IMO, they did this dubious responsable disclousure to get the extra marketing.

[–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Yeah... It seems like they only reached out to the kernel, and not to any distros...

They also disclosed after 37 days rather than the more standard 90 days for everyone to patch

[–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (6 children)

Check uname -r

If you're on 6.19.12 or newer (7.0.1 if they've already bumped to 7) you're definitely safe

For others, it looks fixed in 6.18.22 6.12.85 6.6.137 6.1.170 5.15.204

If you don't have a safe kernel, A better solution referenced below than a module blacklist is to set initcall_blacklist=algif_aead_init in your kernel boot parameters. There is not a generic way to do this across distros, so you will need to look it up for your case

~~If you don't have the updated kernel, you can echo "install algif_aead /bin/false" > /etc/modprobe.d/disable-algif.conf and reboot.

That ensures the buggy module cannot be loaded until you have an updated kernel~~

[–] StripedMonkey@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I continue to protest against this claim. Blacklisting the kernel module does not work for a bunch of distributions including Alma, Rocky, RHEL and others because they have this module built into the kernel. There's no module to remove. You must use a syscall blacklist or similar mechanism to disable this.

[–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm working off the knowledge that OP is using a rolling release, so is likely fixed by that for them. (Arch based, Cachy, and OpenSUSE Tumbleweed all have it as a module, and are the most commonly suggested. Fedora fixed it 2 weeks ago since they follow mainline, so I'd expect Bazzite to have it too. If they're using Debian Sid/Testing, it's both fixed and a module)

If you're using something else, this eBPF filter is probably your best bet https://github.com/Dabbleam/CVE-2026-31431-mitigation

[–] StripedMonkey@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My personal suggestion would be to add initcall_blacklist=algif_aead_init to your kernel arguments. Ebpf is cool, but not a very trivial solution.

I understand the suggestion might apply to a random, unspecified distro but I disapprove of both the exploit authors and the general Internet suggesting fixes that don't apply to every distro (including copy.fail's AI slop RHEL distro that doesn't exist) without caveating it.

The kernel module blacklist won't work for every situation, if you're not being specific in telling people where it applies, it's best to suggest a solution that actually works regardless of distro or explain how to validate when it applies but nobody is doing that.

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[–] 0x0@infosec.pub 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Note that could prove you have it, but failure to execute does not prove yourself secure.

For example, someone reported to me that their RHEL9 system was not vulnerable based on this result. But it was because python was 3.9 and didn't have os.splice, so the demonstrator failed, but the actual issue was there.

Similarly, if '/usr/bin/su' isn't exactly there (maybe it's in /bin/su, or in /sbin/su, or /usr/sbin/su, or not there at all), the demonstrator will fail, but the kernel may still have the vulnerability, you just have to select a different victim utility (or change the cache for some other data other than an executable for other effects).

[–] determinist@kbin.earth 6 points 1 day ago

I ran the script today and my system is vulnerable.

Cachyos, all up to date.

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Nothing much to do for me. Just apply patches as normal.

Edit: I wonder how bad is it on Android

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Android doesn't have su, which this proof of concept exploit requires. Although rooted Android does, so in theory malware written for rooted Android could escalate to root privileges.

Also, the underlying vulnerabilities might be exploitable without su but I don't fully understand the AF_ALG and authencesn bug limits things, or what other executables can escalate privileges.

[–] Hobo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I don't think af_alg is exposed to non-root users on android.

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[–] JelleWho@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (10 children)

For a second I though this was something bad for my computer. But is mainly a server permissions issue it seems. Will patch my server when I'm home though

[–] bookmeat@fedinsfw.app 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It affects any device that can use raw sockets in the kernel. Patch everything.

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[–] pipe01@programming.dev 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why is the PoC obfuscated?

Probably looks more 1337 this way 🤣

There's a readable version in the issues, tho: https://github.com/theori-io/copy-fail-CVE-2026-31431/issues/54#issuecomment-4351460190

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