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[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 59 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I more or less understood, but tbh the explanation was incredibly helpful.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 39 points 2 weeks ago

It helped me with understanding, but not with caring.

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

The one thing I did not understand was ASU. And now I understand why, it's the acronym of a school name in the States.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 58 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I wonder how many linguistics are in the manosphere for purely academic reasons. It must be amazing seeing a language evolve at basically hyperspeed

[–] GalacticSushi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've seen a few articles written about it. One was basically explaining that in anonymous spaces like 4chan, being fluent in the "language" is a way to signal that you belong since you have no identity tied to your social status. As that language seeps into the mainstream, it becomes less valuable as a signal to the in group and therefore new words and phrases need to be created to keep the language as esoteric as possible. There was a lot of musing on whether these phrases getting picked up in more mainstream uses normalizes these groups, or whether it's more a form of mockery that takes away legitimacy.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

That’s true for every group of people, especially young people.

Every family has their own words or phrases only they use.

[–] TerHu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 weeks ago (17 children)

it is very interesting indeed, but then again most people i’ve seen studying linguistics are some mix of the following: female, queer, alternative, left, feminist. which means that for most the manosphere and its hostile language is pure horror.

i absolutely despise the fact that pretty normal people have started the hatred nazi misogyny speak and talk about …maxxing and being …pilled.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

-pilled comes from red-pilled which is a reference to The Matrix, created by the Wachowski sisters, who latter declared it to be heavily influenced by their experiences as transitionin women, so the public using it is just taking it back from the losers.

[–] TerHu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

that’s a very interesting point of view i didn’t consider yet. thanks!

[–] stormdelay@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago

Nothing wrong with twinkmaxxing if you're queerpilled

[–] Daemnyz@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

As a cis-male linguistics student I can confidently say that this is not the case. An ostensibly female, blue-haired, feminist friend wrote her bachelor thesis about classifying reddit users in r/asmongold by language and the correlating amount of engagement in discourse in said community to see if she can form groups by classifying them by language and find out if she can form a relation between those groups and the topics (gaming, "politics", misogyny, racism, etc.) they talk about.

[–] TerHu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

first of all, i’m sorry if i created the impression that all linguists were female (and the other attributes i mentioned). rather i was trying to say that an overwhelming majority of the people starting linguistics at my uni carried at least some of the attributes i mentioned. (a very unscientific observation over the last five years)

please elaborate on what is not the case.

you mention a bachelor thesis, but not the result. can you give a quick summary of what she found?

[–] Daemnyz@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

All good, I think I phrased my comment in a confusing way :) It is true that the humanities have a higher percentage than other fields. I just wanted to add that many female linguists that I know are also dialed into the manosphere/incel/4chan speak even though they are the target of this dehumanising language, kind of in a morbidly curious way lol. Many of my acquaintances are also organising politically, which probably adds to this. As for the results, I sadly haven't met her in a while, I'm sorry. Ohh and I added the cis-male part to clarify that the information is just second hand.

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[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

On the internet, nobody can tell you're not a scumbag

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[–] Twongo@lemmy.ml 41 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

i understood everything. (30, no social media apart from lemmy)

please euthanise me

[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Somehow it makes even less sense with the explanation.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 43 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

At least I understand the words in the explanation.

But who the duck dislike being called a good boy?

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 30 points 2 weeks ago

I believe its called "fragile masculinity".

[–] skrrtly_ambrose@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Apocalypteroid@anarchist.nexus 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

Whatcha gonna do when they come for you

[–] toynbee@piefed.social 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't feel strongly positively or negatively about it, but if it's spoken with clear intent to diminish me, I like that person and their application of the phrase less.

Words are just words. It's how and why they're used that matters.

[–] Kellenved@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 weeks ago

If someone tries to belittle you by calling you ‘good boy’ you look them square in the eyes and tell them “pardon me but I’m the best boy actually”

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 weeks ago

original post this is attempting to jack the style of:

“Clavicular was mid jestergooning when a group of Foids came and spiked his Cortisol levels 😭

Is Ignoring the Foids while munting and mogging Moids more useful then SMV chadfishing in the club?”

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

None of these words are real, I refuse to believe they are

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[–] night_petal@piefed.social 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

OK. This new "incomprehensible" slang is actually very readable to me. There are Gen X slang/slur combos that make much less sense.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's just an explanation of incel terminology.

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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Totally tubular brah

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 9 points 2 weeks ago

I feel like I need a shower followed by a nice loooong bike ride after reading that...

[–] Googlyman64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

CURTAINS FOR ZOOSHA? K-Smog and Batboy caught flipping a grunt

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[–] JakenVeina@midwest.social 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

One possible correction: given that this is a streamer, I'm guessing they're referring to ASU the video game.

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[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

I think I just became a tiny bit stupider.

[–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It has the feeling of reading the Folger annotated Shakespeare editions.

[–] tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

folger annotated? does macbeth get with his sister or something?

[–] nylo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Shea@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

i like a website full of people as old as me. it feels like 2011 in here 24/7

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I’m not sure if I should feel ashamed for understanding this without the translation.

Also, for anyone wanting an indirect education on this language, go listen to the Behind the Bastards podcast on Clavicular, it does a great job explaining the infiltration of incel language (which is mostly what the meme is) into the lexicon and talking about Clavicular.

Worth a listen, not because we need to understand the words, but because we get to understand where they came from and the toxicity of incel groups.

E: I know spotify sucks, but here:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/55PfWsZjNenVzM0jIshyAL

https://open.spotify.com/episode/55PfWsZjNenVzM0jIshyAL

If someone has links to non-corpo-trash streaming feel free to share.

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

A modern day Jabberwocky.

Don't worry if you understand it - the point of Jabberwocky is that we can figure out so much nonsense through context.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Love the Shakespeare reference!

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