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[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 81 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Meanwhile NATO is just looking for a nice small curb-stomp war they can fight, to prove their military isn't a paper tiger like Russia's proved to be.

Russia's military "proved to be" a paper tiger (okay) against NATO weapons and strategy, but NATO needs to prove themselves. Do people read the shit they write?

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They really really miss the all time high dopamine hit of Desert Storm.

[–] Krause@lemmygrad.ml 72 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Maduro, seriously

READ. 👏 THE. 👏 ROOM. 👏

only NATO is allowed to have oil, didn't you get the memo??

[–] HiImThomasPynchon@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago

Lol guy thinks Maduro's going to read his post like the president of Venezuela has time to obsessively google himself.

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 70 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Ugh. My least favourite type of smug liberal. The "We're just itching for the opportunity to murder millions so don't give us that excuse (but we're still morally superior to you despite that.)" kind of guy.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I despise these neoliberal MIC fanboys too. Send everyone who posts like this to fight the wars they so badly want.

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[–] tripartitegraph@hexbear.net 55 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I know we say this all the time, but these fuckers are so goddamn smug, when they literally contribute nothing to global politics. Peak "my dad will beat up your dad" energy even though this guy is probably around 35. It's like they practice being as insufferable as fucking possible.

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago

Watch these guys any time they have to drive through an inner city at night or even the day. They're the type to take one look at a black guy walking down the straight and immediately begin hyperventilating.

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

maybe-later-kiddo Babe, its time for your 4pm regime-change planning session. Get another OAS conference call together so we can talk about overthrowing the Venezuelan government again.

yes-honey-left Yes, honey.

prove their military isn't a paper tiger like Russia's proved to be

Uh... huh.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Russia is a paper tiger and we're curb stomping them but also NATO is desperate to curb stomp someone to show they're not a a paper tiger (like Russia, who we're curb stomping)

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"We're going to beat you like we beat Russia" seems to suggest Venezuela will control a solid third of Guyanese territory within the next two years.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago

These libs probably think Xi also looks himself up to see what racist memes the smug libs are posting about him xinternet

[–] KarlBarqs@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago

Russia is a paper tiger with the world's worst tech! Unlike those strong Aryan Ukranians who used... Wait, what sort of weapons to defend themselves?

[–] ProfessorAdonisCnut@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago

Our enemy will never stop finding was to be simultaneously too strong and too weak, and neither will we

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You know you're on the right side of history when you start ranting about how this colony belongs to France.

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When in fact it doesn't. The French might well have a political interest in preventing this but they don't own this part.

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[–] Sasuke@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago (1 children)

based on how little media attention this is getting i don't think the burger alliance is too keen to get involved

✨❗🚨 this is a vibes based reading 🚨❗✨

Yeah i would expect VUVUSELA EMPIRE MADUROTLER EBIL INVASION to be blared 24/7 to take the libs goldfish attention span from Palestine

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago (1 children)

lmao, this guy thinks javelins grow on trees

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[–] davel@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago (5 children)

If France couldn't do shit to Burkina Faso it can't do shit about Guyana.

Britain's aircraft carriers can currently only carry helicopters.

The US has given its entire stockpiles of land war weapons to Ukraine. And is giving its entire stockpile of air war weapons to Israel.

I sincerely believe that the empires have never been this overstretched in recent history. Not since ww2 or the losses of the British empire.

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Guyana =/= French Guyana.

The first is an independent state since 1966 and a former British colony inhabited by a mix of Indian (indeed Hinduism is the plurality religion), black and native people situated to the west of Suriname and bordering Brazil and Venezuela. It has had a nominally socialist government since even before independence, though I do admittedly not know much about the country's politics.

French Guiana is NOT independent and is part of France. The population is majority black, with a large presence of white Europeans (compared to less than 1% in Guyana) and is largely important for the French/ESA space program. It borders Brazil and Suriname.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yeah so is it even relevant? It has a whole ass country in between. Maybe in the sense that a hot war would affect it economically and with refugees?

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

French Guyana? I doubt it. Also I doubt there'd be much of a grand scale of fighting. Guyana has an army of 4500 people. Venezuela's is much large.

The question is, if the US would decide to enforce the Monroe Doctrine by force and invade.

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[–] Timberknave@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago

China... Doesn't want anything you have.

Ahh yes China, famous non-buyers of oil.

Read the room

Unrelated tangent: there's a concept in Japanese called "空気を読む" (Kuuki wo yomu) which literally translates as "read the air" but basically means "read the room". I have seen multiple white dudes go on long angry rants on separate occasions about how it's "unfair" that the Japanese are being "so indirect" and "won't just say what they mean". Real bruh shit.

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

China has a bigger presence than they think. This idiot doesn't know shit about South America. Guyana isn't Belize. It hasn't been a Commonwealth nation for while. Not that they would give enough of a shit to send troops across the Atlantic. And why would France get involved? They couldn't even handle Niger and Mali.

Best case scenario is that you get a repeat of Vietnam with soldiers being murdered in guerrilla warfare right before suffering from Malaria and climate change-induced heat strokes.

Edit: So apparently Guyana IS a Commonwealth nation while choosing to no longer have the Queen remain as head of state.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

You have taken psychic damage

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

Forgetting someone? kim-drip-too-hard

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago (6 children)

So this post is massively smug about it... but isn't there a bit of accuracy to it, too? Like, what's to stop the US from ratcheting up the tension so that they have something to distract from Israel and the stagnant Ukrainian front?

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There is only so many times you can start a new proxy war to distract from the other proxy wars going poorly.

[–] Minarble@aussie.zone 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Well, not with that attitude.

I’m sure it could fairly easily be stretched to 6 layered proxie wars and by the time you get to number 7 probably at least one of the previous ones would be wrapping up.

You just gotta go in with that old can do Kissinger attitude!

[–] Ossay@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

harry potter and the seven proxy wars

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[–] AbbysMuscles@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

Good luck, I'm behind seven proxies!

[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I figure that ratcheting up tension still requires resources that are being steadily depleted by both ukraine and israel. Consider the various stories about the difficulty of supplying aide to both nations at once, and consider how it would be even harder to have a third straw in the milkshake, so to speak.

It's not impossible the US could do something though, I just think they're genuinely stretched a bit thin right now.

[–] Kaplya@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago

Do not underestimate Biden’s desire to start fights with the entire world. The man’s going out with a bang.

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[–] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago

NATO failed to beat Russia. Who knows how weak they really are, now?

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Others have said munitions shortages, and while that would be a consideration in a long war the US could definitely degrade Venezuela using existing active stocks. The real problem is more serious.

The US has 9 active carrier strike groups, Due to maintenance, logistics and rotation issues (as well as keeping a home fleet for each ocean), this means it can have 3 carrier groups ready for active operations at any time.

1 has to be in the Pacific for obvious Geopolitical reasons. 2 are chilling off Israel/ The Black Sea, They in theory could get one from Japan or San Diego, but the only real one available is CVN71, which is undergoing sea trials for the F35 and isn't staffed or stocked for deployment. They're fucked unless they want to abandon the gulf (and let Yemen hoist the pirate flag on Israeli shipping.) or Abandon the Mediterranean (and let the Russian Pacific or Baltic fleets reinforce the Black Sea as soon as they can pay off Turkey)

They got nothing unless they have international support either for intervention, or for taking over a role supporting Israel, which is politically untenable.

The real question is if the French (who own the slice next door) lack chill. Bet they've been waiting to try out their shiny pocket carrier.

Bet they’ve been waiting to try out their shiny pocket carrier.

I doubt they will do anything, there's not much anything for them in it, they have unrest at home and they partially stripped their regular army weapons to send them to Ukraine. They didn't do anything against Niger which is much more important to them, so it's even less likely they will move even the Navy to the other side of Atlantic.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago (6 children)

what's to stop the US from ratcheting up the tension so that they have something to distract from Israel and the stagnant Ukrainian front?

They gave their entire land war stockpile to Ukraine and are in the process of giving their entire air war stockpile to Israel. What's stopping them is a very real limitation on resources.

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[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago

Recalling all the chuds in the 1980s who thought the UK was gonna do a land invasion of Argentina.

[–] a_blanqui_slate@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

Anyone who posts with any level of smug confidence about the outcome of military operations online needs to be dunked in a toilet.

[–] windowlicker@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

i will never not be mortified by these NAFO people's obsession with war. to them, war is a sports game that you can watch from afar and watch your team win against the team you don't like. they make war sound so trivial or harmless. it's just like matches in the world cup or something for them. it's really disgusting!

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