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[–] TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com 121 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Good lord, what’s wrong with the other two?

[–] oce@jlai.lu 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

They over-consumed the goods from those countries and they lost their minds.

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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 28 points 5 days ago (2 children)

As an American, I also don’t trust the US firms with my data.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 6 points 5 days ago

I don't trust anyone with my data. Regardless of their nationality.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 6 points 5 days ago

Me either, but I also have zero faith in Europe to guard human rights. There are no good guys here.

[–] quack@lemmy.zip 41 points 5 days ago (2 children)

If we’re being real I don’t really trust anyone with my data.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Don't trust anyone, not even yourself.

Full time ass job to keep up with every single security bulletin.

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[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 72 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

As someone born and living in the US, I also don't trust the US or China... or pretty much anyone with my data.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago (3 children)

You can trust meeeeeeeee! What's your first pets maiden name?

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 33 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (10 children)

Don't kid yourselves. Once Europe develops its own big tech, it's going to be just as untrustworthy. But at least it will be your untrustworthy.

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 23 points 5 days ago (5 children)

For now, the EU has strong data protection laws that the US and China don't have. Although it is true that stupid ideas like Chat Control keep popping up every couple of years.

Ideally, though, you put them in countries close to the EU but not part of it, like Switzerland.

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[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It’s the EU trying to read everyone’s chat messages because .001% of the population might use the technology for sending CSAM.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 days ago

It’s the EU trying to read everyone’s chat messages because .001% of the population might use the technology for sending CSAM.

That's only the excuse the politicians are using. In reality there's a combination of intelligence services and datamining operations pushing for scanning ordinary law-abiding citizens communications.

[–] nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 days ago

Europe tech often times are open source with commercial service.

At least it's better than whatever Google, Microsoft, or Tencent.

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I honestly feel safer with my data in a foreign authorities hands than domestic.

China can't do dick to me nor should they want to. I'm just a lil guy! The US does nasty things to its citizens on the reg, I don't wanna be caught up in that!

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

they can do plenty enough to be worried. maybe they can not harm you physically (for now), but by having access to details of the private lives of people, their conversations, and being able to see how they form their opinions, they can use that information to determine how can they reshape public opinion on topics of their interests. this information can be used by themselves, or they can pass it to an ally, and it could be used to change almost anything, like interfere with elections, or further erode the need for privacy so that people are willingly giving up even more data to them

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[–] IratePirate@feddit.org 52 points 5 days ago (1 children)

To be fair, I don't trust European companies with it either. As the saying goes: "Where there's a trough, there will be pigs." Want to keep your data safe? Keep it.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yes, bit wary of these current trends that try to paint Europe as this holier than thou place where everyone only thinks about the polar bears and UBI, when the truth is we have plenty of capitalist sharks in our ranks that would be happy burning it all down for the next quarterly results.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (4 children)

To be fair, we have the GDPR in Europe, which puts people at ease. However, this could be weakened or rid of entirely in order for the EU to become more "competitive" some day. Even the climate change goals of the EU has already been weakened so that we could catch up to the AI race. As sad as it is, it's just the realpolitik influencing decisions.

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 16 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The EU keeps coming within inches of voting for making secure encryption impossible. Chat Control would have been worse for privacy than anything the US has.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

American here, I don't trust US firms with data

[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

I trust they are selling my data to make money, even when I ask them not to.

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[–] Kkk2237pl@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (4 children)

But > 9/10 Europeans use whastapp / messenger for daily basis.

9/10 european companies decide to use Aws, azure or gcp, instructions of Scaleway or ovh.

9/10 europeans use Chatgpt or Claude instead of mistral or Lumo

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[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 25 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I dont trust the US with my data ... or anything. This place is run by literal idiots and/or criminals.

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'm American and don't trust U.S. firms with data.

To be clear, I also don't trust Chinese firms.

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago

I don't trust my own government, and have no reason to trust anyone else at this point, let alone for profit companies. It's bleak.

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[–] Blander_Rurton@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why on earth would we!? China especially don't have the best track record, and the US is the laughing stock of the world at this point, not to trusted with anything.

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[–] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Good, also don't trust european firms either, don't trust any corporations with your data.

[–] Azal@pawb.social 9 points 4 days ago

It's amazing how many people cheer for corporations. There's few consistents in the world but a big one is corporations are not your friend.

[–] febra@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

I despise the US from the bottom of my heart, and I am a big China fan, and yet at the same time I don't want anyone to handle our data. We need data sovereignty. Our data stays here and that's it. Not in the US. Not in China. Not anywhere else.

[–] shirasho@feddit.online 36 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I live in the US and I dont trust US companies with my data either. They either sell it or are handled by easily exploitable systems developed offshore in India.

So, in that sense I do not trust the US, China, India, or Russia with my data and avoid software developed in any of these places when feasibly possible.

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[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Joke is on you, I trust no one with my data.

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[–] GargleBlaster@feddit.org 26 points 5 days ago

I don't trust politico with my news articles

[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Lol who trusts any firm with their data?

[–] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

20% of Europeans

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

How many of those 8 are doing anything, ANYTHING, about it though?

[–] Today@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago (4 children)

4/5 of the people i know in the US don't trust the US.

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[–] Hakuso@scribe.disroot.org 8 points 5 days ago

Watching all the new laws spew out in Europe I don't trust them, either.

I'm down to Romania and Iceland, now.

Been dumping German stuff like a plague lately, and already pulled all data out of Canada.

I have one thing in Amsterdam, but their laws have been getting worse and worse, and they're... Nine, I think it is, eyes which is bad for trusting them with your data. Even Switzerland is getting sus af.

[–] dasrael@lemmy.zip 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Seems like 2 out of 10 Europeans need to get their head checked.

[–] magnue@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I'm currently in the process of degoogling. There's a lot to consider.

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[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago

I do trust Chinese a lot more than muricans. And don't use any american product (to my current knowledge).

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 days ago

I don't trust any firm

[–] uenticx@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

How about, if your data can be compromised, it's not safe anywhere?

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

good, I don't either and I live here.

[–] VoodooAardvark@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 days ago

At this point how does anyone trust anyone with their data?

I only trust math with my data (i.e. encryption...)

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