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[–] TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com 122 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Good lord, what’s wrong with the other two?

[–] oce@jlai.lu 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They over-consumed the goods from those countries and they lost their minds.

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[–] IratePirate@feddit.org 52 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To be fair, I don't trust European companies with it either. As the saying goes: "Where there's a trough, there will be pigs." Want to keep your data safe? Keep it.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, bit wary of these current trends that try to paint Europe as this holier than thou place where everyone only thinks about the polar bears and UBI, when the truth is we have plenty of capitalist sharks in our ranks that would be happy burning it all down for the next quarterly results.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

To be fair, we have the GDPR in Europe, which puts people at ease. However, this could be weakened or rid of entirely in order for the EU to become more "competitive" some day. Even the climate change goals of the EU has already been weakened so that we could catch up to the AI race. As sad as it is, it's just the realpolitik influencing decisions.

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The EU keeps coming within inches of voting for making secure encryption impossible. Chat Control would have been worse for privacy than anything the US has.

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[–] JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And every year new open mass surveillance worse than the UK and US attempts to be passed and barely fails.

GDPR also doesn't mean shit if it is barely enforced against large companies or the fines aren't revenue-proportional.. Then it is just a cost of doing business.

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[–] quack@lemmy.zip 41 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If we’re being real I don’t really trust anyone with my data.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Don't trust anyone, not even yourself.

Full time ass job to keep up with every single security bulletin.

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[–] shirasho@feddit.online 36 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I live in the US and I dont trust US companies with my data either. They either sell it or are handled by easily exploitable systems developed offshore in India.

So, in that sense I do not trust the US, China, India, or Russia with my data and avoid software developed in any of these places when feasibly possible.

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

Don't kid yourselves. Once Europe develops its own big tech, it's going to be just as untrustworthy. But at least it will be your untrustworthy.

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 month ago (5 children)

For now, the EU has strong data protection laws that the US and China don't have. Although it is true that stupid ideas like Chat Control keep popping up every couple of years.

Ideally, though, you put them in countries close to the EU but not part of it, like Switzerland.

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[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s the EU trying to read everyone’s chat messages because .001% of the population might use the technology for sending CSAM.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

It’s the EU trying to read everyone’s chat messages because .001% of the population might use the technology for sending CSAM.

That's only the excuse the politicians are using. In reality there's a combination of intelligence services and datamining operations pushing for scanning ordinary law-abiding citizens communications.

[–] nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago

Europe tech often times are open source with commercial service.

At least it's better than whatever Google, Microsoft, or Tencent.

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I honestly feel safer with my data in a foreign authorities hands than domestic.

China can't do dick to me nor should they want to. I'm just a lil guy! The US does nasty things to its citizens on the reg, I don't wanna be caught up in that!

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

they can do plenty enough to be worried. maybe they can not harm you physically (for now), but by having access to details of the private lives of people, their conversations, and being able to see how they form their opinions, they can use that information to determine how can they reshape public opinion on topics of their interests. this information can be used by themselves, or they can pass it to an ally, and it could be used to change almost anything, like interfere with elections, or further erode the need for privacy so that people are willingly giving up even more data to them

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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

As an American, I also don’t trust the US firms with my data.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 6 points 1 month ago

Me either, but I also have zero faith in Europe to guard human rights. There are no good guys here.

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[–] GargleBlaster@feddit.org 26 points 1 month ago

I don't trust politico with my news articles

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I dont trust the US with my data ... or anything. This place is run by literal idiots and/or criminals.

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[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Joke is on you, I trust no one with my data.

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[–] Today@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

4/5 of the people i know in the US don't trust the US.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You can make that 6/7 (my wife and I).

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm American and don't trust U.S. firms with data.

To be clear, I also don't trust Chinese firms.

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[–] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good, also don't trust european firms either, don't trust any corporations with your data.

[–] Azal@pawb.social 10 points 1 month ago

It's amazing how many people cheer for corporations. There's few consistents in the world but a big one is corporations are not your friend.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago

I don't trust any firm

[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lol who trusts any firm with their data?

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[–] magnue@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm currently in the process of degoogling. There's a lot to consider.

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[–] VoodooAardvark@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 month ago

At this point how does anyone trust anyone with their data?

[–] Kkk2237pl@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (4 children)

But > 9/10 Europeans use whastapp / messenger for daily basis.

9/10 european companies decide to use Aws, azure or gcp, instructions of Scaleway or ovh.

9/10 europeans use Chatgpt or Claude instead of mistral or Lumo

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

good, I don't either and I live here.

[–] dasrael@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Seems like 2 out of 10 Europeans need to get their head checked.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

American here, I don't trust US firms with data

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I only trust math with my data (i.e. encryption...)

[–] null@lemmy.org 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I don't even trust my own PC with my data.

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[–] febra@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I despise the US from the bottom of my heart, and I am a big China fan, and yet at the same time I don't want anyone to handle our data. We need data sovereignty. Our data stays here and that's it. Not in the US. Not in China. Not anywhere else.

[–] Blander_Rurton@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why on earth would we!? China especially don't have the best track record, and the US is the laughing stock of the world at this point, not to trusted with anything.

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[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

How many of those 8 are doing anything, ANYTHING, about it though?

[–] Hakuso@scribe.disroot.org 8 points 1 month ago

Watching all the new laws spew out in Europe I don't trust them, either.

I'm down to Romania and Iceland, now.

Been dumping German stuff like a plague lately, and already pulled all data out of Canada.

I have one thing in Amsterdam, but their laws have been getting worse and worse, and they're... Nine, I think it is, eyes which is bad for trusting them with your data. Even Switzerland is getting sus af.

[–] Brummbaer@pawb.social 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Chinese can do less harm with my data than the US and it's allies.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (11 children)

For now.

The problem is that once it's out there, you can't take it back.

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