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Yall should remove some of these animal words and instead add different words for like the 5 different meanings of "spring"

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[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 47 points 4 days ago (12 children)

I always thought turtles mostly live in the water and tortoises mostly lived on land.

[–] WaterSword@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] nyctre@piefed.social 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The good ol' "All tortoises are turtles but not all turtles are tortoises"

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[–] danda@lemmy.zip 28 points 4 days ago (6 children)

A turtle lives in water, a tortoise lives on land. A turtle's not a tortoise, it's not hard to understand.

[–] esc@piefed.social 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But they are turtles, like every crow is a bird.

[–] Klear@quokk.au 1 points 3 days ago

And every jackdaw is a crow!

[–] blinfabian@feddit.nl 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

in dutch theyre called landschildpad and zeeschildpad (landshelltoad and seashelltoad)

[–] JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago

But zeeschildpad doesn't include things like box turtles that live near bodies of water but not all the time, right? I guess here in Belgium we just use "schildpad" for everything.

It also sounds cooler to translate it to shield-toad lol

[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago

Shelltoad is a fantastic name for them

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[–] nightlily@leminal.space 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

German: that toad looking thing has a shield on it

Det är samma för sköldpaddor.

But also my Swedish is terrible, so that might be completely wrong.

[–] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 days ago

Dutch as well, schildpad literally translates to shielded toad.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@piefed.world 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Tortoises are Turtles, but not all Turtles are Tortoises.

This isn't an English thing, this is a taxonomy thing. It should be the same in any language, just with different words used.

[–] menas@lemmy.wtf 3 points 3 days ago

Both are translated "tortue" in french However to be fair, it could be specified "Tortue marine" and "Tortue terrestre"

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[–] meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Simple!

Turtle: pretty chill dude cruising the East Australian Current

Tortoise: teaching Pandas Kung-Fu

[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Damn kids, in my day turtles lived in the sewer eating pizza and doing ninjutsu.

shakes cane

[–] meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Those clearly were tortoises though :D

[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Technically they're terrapins (specifically red-eared terrapins).

[–] MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

Teenage Mutant Ninja Terrapins
Teenage Mutant Ninja Terrapins
Teenage Mutant Ninja Terrapins
Heroes in a half-shell, Terrapin Power!

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So, tortoises, and thus also turtles...

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[–] MrFinnbean@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Would be simpler just to call them turtles and landturtles.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

How about "dry shelly boys" and "wet shelly boys?"

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

What about mine turtles?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The biggest difference is that turtles live in and around water, while tortises are entirely land based.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Not to be confused with the rare tortups, which spends nearly their entire life in flight.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 12 points 4 days ago

Tortoises are land animals. Simple.

Frogs and toads might be a better one - there's no systematic difference except toads are ugly.

[–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

All tortoises are turtles (but not all turtles are tortoises) from a biology point of view. Tortoises specifically being exclusively land-based members of the turtle (Testudines) order. So there is a difference.

And “spring” doesn’t really have different meanings - as per the root of the word, it always means some variant of “to burst forth”. There’s lots of different definitions for the word but they’re all rooted in the same place, from an etymology point of view.

The season bursting forth from the winter darkness and cold, the metal coil as it bursts forth when released from compression, the source of water as it bursts forth from the ground, bursting forth someone out of jail, etc.

Homographs are the real problem - when two different words, over time, become spelled the same.

Sow, lead, close, bear. All have multiple etymologies where different words eventually became spelled the same. Those are the worst!

English is a truly crazy mashup of Latin, Greek, French, German, Celtic, Norse and more.

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[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago

Simple. One can be thrown into water and it'll be OK. The other...not so much.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A tortoise is a kind of turtle, just like a toad is a kind of frog.

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[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 5 points 4 days ago

They are waaaaaay different what are you talking about..

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago (4 children)

My box turtle mostly lives on soil, although he enjoys a paddle and soak in his water. But the main difference from a tortoise is that he's omnivorous, needing protein like bugs, whereas they are herbivores.

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[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

🤓🪤
The pedant trap has been set…

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[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

One is an animal and the other a military formation, duh.

[–] weariedfae@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

Easy! A turtle is flippy flips and a tortoise is clompy clomps.

[–] notabot@piefed.social 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

If you think "spring" is bad, go check how many different meanings there are for the word "set".

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (3 children)

"off" is one my favourites. The alarm went OFF so we had to turn it OFF. It means the opposite of itself.

"Sanction" is another example. Your actions were not sanctioned by us, so as retaliation we're introducing sanctions against you.

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[–] Entropy_Pyre@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago

The spring comment is valid.

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