Looking forward to hear JD Vance comment Magyar win.
Not expecting $hit from djt
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Looking forward to hear JD Vance comment Magyar win.
Not expecting $hit from djt
Congratulations to Hungary and also to Ukraine.
The REALLY good thing is that Magyar get super majority, so he can undo the undemocratic things Orban did in his attempt to stay in power.
Hopefully democratic principles will be restored in Hungary now. And Hungary can participate constructively in EU again, and receive the benefits of being an EU member.
unlikely, he has many of the same policies and as mentioned is centre right, he's not as obnoxious as Orban but only just. He was an Orban protégé for a time.
It's not like Hungary went centre left or something.
Wait and see. He’s centre-right and used to be in the same party.
That is normalization of the extreme right; people feel like a centre-right candidate is leftist. Social engineering at its best. Well at least he is pro EU so in your face Putin.
He was running on wealth taxes and progressive income taxes and much stronger welfare policies though. As well as term limits.
I just hope Magyar isnt a shadow puppet. Or a massive ball that gets dropped and deflated like Starmer.
A great day for Hungary and Europe. Fingers crossed now for the coming months.
Is it possible Belarus could also follow suit?
Belarus isn't forced to have a functional democracy like Hungary is through EU. Which is one of the great benefits of the EU. He wouldn't have anything to say, neither recieve any of the benefits from the EU, while Hungary was under investigation of corrupt democracy and also, could potentially be thrown out.
Since Belarus is a puppet state of Russia, and not a part of the union. Nothing, holds back the belarussian government to not just fake the democratic process, just like Putler does in his own shit country.
Is it possible Belarus could also follow suit?
Belarus hasn't had a technically democratic regime for 16 years, but a straight up dictator for 32 (there's never been an election in the country he didn't "win"). And it's in an economic and defense union with Russia (integrated even closer than EU countries are with each other). That's a whole different league.
of course he's won them all. he's that good.
let me finish. at cheating.
Shame. So revolution or nothing basically? Or perhaps when the leader (I forget his name…Lukchencko?) dies?
Usually when a long-time dictator dies he picked a successor. They are not always succesful at continuing the democracy but i don't expect the country to suddenly return to democracy when Lukashenko dies. Would be really really nice though.
A great day for Europe. One of Putins most valuable assets in the EU has fallen. Also, I don't think the Hungarian democracy would have survived another Orban term.
I just can't help but wonder if this is some kind of ruse to replace the burned Orban with someone new and charismatic, he was one of Orbans after all
I share the same gut feeling, maybe I have just grown cynical after everything that happened since Covid times.
No need to be paranoid straight away. I will judge Magyar by his actions.
After all, his last name literally means ‘Hungarian’, it doesn't get more sovereign than that. Otherwise it would be like if James USA turned out to be a foreign asset.
Yeah, I do feel kinda tinfoil hatty about it. Guess I'm just jaded, let's see what they will do now that theyve won
There was a suspicion of that in Hungary as well, but after the last 2 years, most people highly doubt it.
Thank you Vance for tipping the scale.
Right?
Are these right wing politicians living in their own bubble or am I? Why would anyone want to be associated with the US administration in general and Vance in particular at this time? Who looks at this and thinks "oh, the venerable vice president of the United States endorses this guy, surely I'll give him my vote"?
There have been about 0 good news from the US in the last year. If I were a politician I'd distance myself from that trainwreck so hard
Judging by the election results, I don't think it's you in the bubble.
I mean, it could be both.
Canada went through this a year ago. Our Liberal government was sinking under controversies of their own making and the right-wing Conservatives were on track for a big win. Then the Americans started blathering on with their 51st state bullshit and completely wiped out the Conservative lead, and their bootlicking leader lost his own seat in the general election.
Of course, Milhouse was simply handed a free seat elsewhere in the country so that he can continue to be a smarmy piece of three-word-slogan shit. At least O'Toole knew when he was finished.
He is a parasite, why even thank him.
Hope things work out better moving forward for Hungary than they had been.
Here's to hoping for a shift in the Hungarian Overton Window such that the new guy will in a few years be outvoted from the left.
Define left. He ran on wealth taxes, no income taxes on minimal wage and reining in corporations. Not much further "left" of him, at least by policy right now as I could see.
His party is a member of the EPP. How do I define "left"? Anything to the left of the EPP would do for now.
I'm glad that Orban is out but it's not like Hungary just elected Zohran Magyardani.
Magyardani heh.
he is the new left, thanks to normalization of extreme right
YAY!
Rejoice!
It really is amazing that the Orbman was supported both by Trump and by Putin. This is a great win for all Europeans, but of course especially for the Hungarians. Let's hope that Peter Hungarian will be able to live up to his expectations.
I hope so too, but even if he won't at least we had the joy of a loss for Putin and Trump.
Let's hope for Vučić to fall next, now that he is isolated.
how could he even get in again? they threw him out because of corruption, didn't he?
Finally some good news.
Painful for him and what little supporters he has left.
Such great news! Hopefully a dawn of a dawn of a new era.