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And that’s basically it!
They're saying the quiet part out loud and why they're anti-abortion. The younger the better for a quick turnaround:
They need the poors to fight their wars and work on their factory floors.
I frequently just stand outside and look at the sky and think, yep, we weren't meant to work all day. We were meant to pick berries and mushrooms and take naps. I feel better about my station in life, knowing those oligarchs can never be satisfied, and all I have to do to feel right is take a walk outside.
Didn't we always hunt?
Yeah, that's why we can run
Edit: Distance running that is. Humans have better endurance than almost any land animal, so we can chase prey to exhaustion. It helps that we're crafty enough to carry water and snacks with us
Not an expert, but that would depend on the location, probably. Smaller game, certainly, but not everyone had large animals roaming around. Likewise, there were probably people who hunted and didn't gather that much because there simply wasn't that type of plant around.
But the point made still stands: modern life is not something natural to our evolution.
Yeah, Ill sit in a deer stand all afternoon, or pick blueberries. Both are better than email.
No, they want robots to work in the factories, because they don't complain and don't unionize, and don't take time off, and work for electrons.
I distinctly remember a time when boomers and talking heads would automatically respond to concerns about issues with the cost of having kids with:
"Don't have kids if you can't afford them."
"If you couldn't afford kids then you should've kept your legs closed."
"Don't expect a handout, nobody forced you to have kids."
"Healthcare and child care are too expensive? Tough shit snowflake, that's the free market! Work harder!"
"Why are my taxes paying for a public school when I don't even have any kids that go there?"
So nope, no sympathies. And no, you can't have your child sex brides, either.
They are still saying this when it's convenient for them. The only consistent thing for such people is their cowardice in the face of responsibility.
Who the fuck wants to be having kids in this day and age anyway. Also why is it up to the underage teens to push out babies to keep the population up. Yeah let's put pressure on them to ruin their entire lives before they even get to live it. Love the American standards.
The dude was conflating a number of things.
Teen birth rate is down the most, at 7% in 2025. 70% since 2005.
Overall births are down slightly last year.
Overall we have a sub replacement birth rate of 1.53 per woman.
The last one is a societal problem. But just saying we need women to have more kids isn't a solution. You need to find out why people don't want to have as many kids. Which I would bet is almost entirely economic. Kids are a large long term expense. And if you're living paycheck to paycheck, with an uncertain financial future, a kid is a scary prospect.
The problem is the sub replacement birth rate of 1.53 per woman.
This is not actually a problem, except we want to keep the completely unsustainable economic system unchanged.
Birth rates are down all over the developed world with Japan being the hardest hit
Most of the developed world has the same societal problems that boil down to, no one has the money, time or energy to have kids.
Also health as well. Pregnancy permanently changes a woman’s body.
I remember when teen pregnancy was considered bad and a sign of a decaying morality across the country. Now the same right wing moralizers are saying they need those teen moms again. But this time it's about money so they are noticeably quiet about morality.
I remember when teen pregnancy was considered bad and a sign of a decaying morality across the country.
before that it was commonplace though. I'm 61, my grandmother started having her kids at 16, she had 8, one of them my mother, the youngest of her kids. Many of her friends were similarly 15-19 having thier first kid. My mother was 19 with me, I was born when she turned 20. She had 3 kids, i have none, my sister none and my brother 2, so family dynamics have changed.
This is Australia though, you can read books of some of the early convict ships coming over and they arrived with all the 13-16yr old girls pregnant, or having had their kid on board and being married etc
You can see some of the effect in The Philippines, pregnant teen mothers are everywhere. Religious indoctrination in regards anti contraception doesn't stop teens fucking (and this in a nation with no divorce)
Only locally it's a bad thing. Nationally, they need those girls waiting tables in diners. How else is someone going to get their nostalgia kick while driving route 66?
And don't forget future soldiers are needed. There's a place for everyone.
Fucking lemongrab grade screeching of purity and abstinence for decades and then suddenly this
Maybe if you just imprison fertile women and give them to rich couples to fuck and impregnate, that will solve the problem? You could call them handmaid's to distract from what they really are!
Maybe change their names, to reveal who owns them. Say Ofelon, Ofdonald1, Ofdonald2, etc.
Matt Gatez says 'I'm doing my part'
I wonder how much breaking up the trump-epstein ring lowered the fertility rate of 15-19 year olds.
Fertility rates are an issue for capitalism not humanity
humans. can't. breed. in. captivity.
Bullshit. We'd be extinct otherwise
And guess who the fathers to those teen pregnancies are? It’s men over 20. Adding a layer of ick to what he’s lamenting.
COSTS ARE TOO HIGH, THE FUTURE LOOKS BLEAK, AND NOBODY WHO CAN FIX THOSE THINGS SEEMS TO GIVE A SHIT.
Go ahead and spend a bunch of money on analysts, though. Ignore the root causes. We’re used to it.
They want every woman to be a Michelle Duggar - get married as a minor, start popping them out ASAP, and keep the Xerox machine running until someone dies.
15-19 yr olds aren’t supposed to be having kids.
Fixing the birthrate is pretty simple in theory. The government needs to meet the needs of people having kids. The details are a little more complicated.
In order to have more kids in their 20's people need:
A higher income in their 20's. If they work full time they deserve to be able to afford a 3 bedroom place, food, etc..
A place to live - Build affordable housing that people can own and build a life. These need to be 3-4 bedroom places that one income can cover.
Medical care: free quality medical care to cover little things like birth cost and the doctor visits a child needs.
Time: Hard to make babies when you are working 60+ hours a week. Mandatory 40 or less work week. 2 months of vacation every year.
Childcare - Free or heavily subsidized childcare for working parents. Currently childcare for 2 children is more than the net average income for one person in many areas. Earlier retirement programs are also highly effective.
Quality schools and education: ban private schools, invest heavily in public schools increasing teacher wages and requirements, reducing classroom sizes, and providing quality educational material. Free college and trade schooling as well.
Hope: Stop fucking up the planet for temporary gains. If we started to reverse our environmental damaging behaviors more people would be willing to have kids
When standards of living rise, birthrates drop.
Western countries, japan & korea all have low birthrates and all developed them as av. income rose. China too but one-child made it a less clear example. Even within a society, middle and upper classes have smaller families than the working class.
Declining birthrates can't be fixed by improving living standards, but that's fine because low birthrate is a good thing - a sign of a society doing well.
If a high income/low birthrate society needs more citizens, immigration from low income/high birthrate areas is the only viable option. Endless expansion is a fools errand anyway.
There is the question if the birthrates just dropped because the market now expects both people in a relationship to be working, making it impossible for the parents to care for their kids by reducing hours and childcare costs being more or close to what one person earns, especially in lower paying jobs. The effects on lifetime income for a mother are still devastating, and domestic work is still VERY undervalued. Fix this, and I am sure that birth rates will go up. But that would mean that our corporate overlords will make less.
Maybe if the population numbers in the US crash hard there will be a rethinking of priorities. The combination of xenophobia and economic pressure to keep working without having kids will take care of that in the next decade or two.
Considering the average age of father's for teen pregnancy, It can keep dropping
How many times do conservatives have to prove that they're all pedophiles before the rest of us will learn?
Good!
In a normal country, a doctor endorsing teen pregnancy would get their licence suspended.
I feel like we're in the upside down....
Interestingly, Canada, which has free health care has a lower birth rate than the U.S. where births can cost between $3000 and $70 000.
Getting the child born is the cheap part, getting them to grow up is the real money sink.
And Canada is not exactly the cheapest place to live either
just what the world needs, more americans