Asklemmy

my issue...

they are just ads with tits. (yes, I'm being blunt). they come into social settings and post images or whatever, and it's just yo... you with the penis. give me money because I have tits.

overall, I have no issue with the site. but FFS .. STAY ON THAT SITE. don't come here and advertise your ass cheese. its annoying and the majority dgaf.

this applies to onlyfans because pornstars... well they don't do that shit. they keep their crap to normal ads (which still suck) and their sites. I have respect for pornstars, I have no respect for onlyfans 'gimmie money' clowns

One modern issue is that sites like OnlyFans has caused is a unique type of spam as various models spam in a lot of places in order to build their audience.

people think it's easy money and get jealous

and people like that never realize just how much work actually goes into it (speaking from personal experience here)

I only have a problem with sex work if people feel like they have to do it to make ends meet, or if they are being coerced into it. The latter being a big problem in the porn industry.

This is probably a hot take, but it's because society has this weird aversion to sex even though it's necessary for us to continue existing. This aversion extends to sex work in general and is also the reason why the field has so many problems.

Because christianity taught them that sex is bad.

ITT: misogyny

Sex is still seen as a Taboo. It's 2026 guys, come on!

Sex workers face mortality rates from overdose that dwarf the general population. We're talking about an external-cause mortality risk roughly 8-12 times higher for these marginalized groups. The direct link is undeniable: studies show a significant history of substance dependence (100% in one cohort) with opioids involved in ~90% of those fatal events. It's crucial to note these are likely "conservative estimates" because many records don't capture sex work status.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12405828/

The driving factor isn't the work itself, but the trauma surrounding it. You see a high burden of PTSD, anxiety, and depression that predates or coincides with substance use. For many, the drug use, especially "polysubstance" mixing of opioids and benzos, is a form of self-medication to numb the violence and stigma

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/acps.13559

The overdose is often a direct consequence of criminalization and policing. Research shows that when police target sex workers or create barriers to safe consumption sites, the odds of a fatal overdose more than double (AOR 2.15)

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0955395922003668?fr=RR-2&ref=pdf_download&rr=9d06bca97a56066e

Misogyny.

Reducing people to objects is generally bad.

Only fans also promote sexualization of girls/teens.

It's well established in social research that the patriarchy uses sexual objectification of women to help keep them reduced as second class citizens.

It helps promote the idea that "women want to be sexually assaulted and they like sexual harassment".

Taking blame from the predators.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectification

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-objectification

Additionally. Turning intimacy and affection into something to be sold or bought devalues this aspect of human connection.

https://www.thorn.org/research/library/commodified-online-sexual-interactions/

Consent and Commodification: Objections to the Market for Sex Work https://pressbooks.lib.vt.edu/pper/chapter/article-4/

I personally think sex work should be decriminalized for the prostitute but not the johns.

Sex work is not something people do because its a choice but out of need for finances.

Meaning it's a form of coercion and exploitation.

You could argue most work/labor is that. It is. I won't say its not.

But sex work perpetuates harm more (physical, mental and promotes misogyny in our society) and specifically harms women the most. Though it harms anyone working in that industry.

They don’t. Generally, nobody cares. The few that do are just so damn loud you'd think there was a lot of them.

Because most cultures have been heavily influenced by cultures descended from the bronze age sheep fuckers who came up with the idea of virginity as a way of ensuring paternity and maximizing the price they could charge for selling their preteen daughters to old men.

I don't like how it's spammed around, otherwise I wouldn't care about it.

Anyone who works a job they hate for a boss they hate, for not enough money, is the same as any prostitute. They should stop being so judgemental.

american puratism has infected the world.

Personal view from someone who considers themselves pretty liberal: I don't get it.

I have no issue at all with anything someone does to make money, provided it doesn't hurt anyone else. Good for them, wish I was attractive enough to do it. I'd have absolutely no issue with my wife or sister or friend earning money this way.

What I do object to, is low effort. Not just OF/porn, but influencers and streamers more widely. Fake noises, grotesque leering, begging for money - none of it is real, and it doesn't interest me in the slightest. It doesn't appeal to me as a consumer, and I don't understand at all that it does for anyone. Obviously it does work and people do pay money to watch it but I'm genuinely bewildered why. If you want porn, it's everywhere for free. If anyone reading is a viewer, please do try to educate me on what you get out of it!

(Also, I do know there are people who genuinely enjoy performing and put a lot of effort into producing quality, it's not all shite)

True story; I used to employ a chap doing building work. He was straight, married (but open, he slept with several of our female staff), good looking and very fit - and one day he handed me his notice. He said he'd been doing OF and gay porn at the weekends and he was making ten times the money in half a day doing that than he was working five days for me. Good for him, he was able to afford a lifestyle he couldn't otherwise.

My opinion is that, if you ignore the judeo-christian prudishness, it comes down to two things.

First, some jealousy. It looks like easy money, and they're having sex (in the case of porn actors), so there's this almost subconscious anger that someone else found a trick to "get rich". Thing is with that, the only people getting rich in porn were/are the producers. Only fans shifted that a little, but the company takes a cut like any asshole pimp would. I've actually heard people irl express things that lead me to believe this is a common factor.

Second is the fact that a large swath of people, even though otherwise open minded and unconcerned about sex issues, still think that the only reason one would sell their sexuality is because they can't do better. It's the whole thing where humans like to piss downhill. Anyone doing something that a person considers "below" them is gong to be seen as inherently flawed. That doesn't apply only to porn, btw.

Hell, I fall prey to the trope that anyone doing porn must have some kind of trauma, if I don't pay attention to myself. It is true that porn as it exists in this world is marginalized, and heavily staffed by sufferers of trauma. It actually is one of those jobs where people that have serious mental health problems and/or drug dependency get drawn to because it's relatively easy to find and keep income compared to other jobs when you have those issues.

Since porn is marginalized, there is a significant portion of the on screen workers that don't have many other options. It's super easy for someone young, undereducated, and desperate to end up being paid to show their body or fuck. Since someone in that situation is going to get paid less doing anything else they could find, the industry is heavily weighted towards that population (partially because of the ease of finding desperate people, and mostly because the desperate are easier to exploit and abuse).

Only fans runs closer to neutral since it is based in individuals. So while abuse occurs, and there's a lot wrong with the company, the real abuse only happens when an outside person is forcing a model or models to perform. Not that porn is free of trafficking and forced labor, but it's less useful to do that for porn when there's easier ways to exploit someone there.

That's my take anyway. It's based on casual conversations with people that object to porn in its various guises, and the rest from casual exposure to interviews and conversations with adult performers

Personally, I think influencer/hustle culture, parasocial relations, personal "brands" are a rot on society coming from the worst parts of capitalism. The influencer benefits from alienation and I think that's wrong. I don't think an OF model is any worse than any other influencer. I also think a lot of OF models didn't feel they had many options when they started. But the really successful ones could get out or be less parasocial or something.

I respect sex workers but I really don't want to be advertised to while I'm jerking off, or ever really. Like if i'm in the market for buying nudes I'll come to you. I have nothing against anyone who buys or sells pics on onlyfans.

So long as it’s entirely consensual for all who’s involved and every one is of adult age I don’t see the problem …

Some people genuinely have a problem with it.

But I’m convinced that the majority of it is just: It’s embarrassing (and therefore costs social capital) to defend it.

So therefore: If you attach it to something else you want to attack, you just gave yourself a strategic advantage.