Han shot first.
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Yeah, no. That green fucker never even had a chance to pull his trigger. Han capped him in the coldest of blood then sauntered out with less bothers than Winnie-the-Pooh with a tummy full of hunny.
God forbid a character start out as an asshole so he has room for character growth.
What I hate so much about the modern versions is that not only do they try to make him not a bad guy, but they out that stupid scene with Jabba in right after it. Narratively it serves the same purpose as the previous scene and the dialogue is nearly identical. Plus it really cheapens how big of a threat Jabba should be. Han steps on him. Jabba was throwing people into a pit just for shits and giggles. Why would he let someone step on him? Some scenes really should stay deleted.
I wouldn't call that being an asshole.
I know. But back when Lucas first changed it, "Han shot first" was the slogan people used. It's short, as slogans should be. What else would you use? "Greedo never shot"? "Only Han shot"? Those don't sound as good, at least to me. "Han shot first" can also mean that Greedo never got to fire his gun, because Han was quicker. So I'll stick with that.
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Only Han shot.
Han shot ~~first~~.
FTFY
And he was so full of shit when talking about the Kessel run.
Han: "I did the Kessel run in under 12 parsecs. smug grin"
Luke: "Isn't a parsec a unit of distance, not time?"
Han: "Shut up, kid."
It was so dumb that they tried to justify that comment on the Solo movie.
There was a lot of dumb shit in that Solo movie.
I always interpreted this as him using shortcuts through dangerous areas.
Chewwie never gets tired of hearing about that one.
No! And the reason I say no is because Greedo didn't shoot at all! In some versions they both shoot and in some Han shoots first and in some second. In the one I grew up with (VHS box set, face edition) he is the only one to shoot.
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Stargate: Universe S1E6 "Water"
I would not look to characters from SG:U for a healthy outlook on anything.
This. This is exactly why people pick the guy in the Star Trek shirt.
I am SO old that I don't actually remember their "additional names". Star Wars... I don't even remember the sequence... 4-5-6? I'm old enough to not care about that bullshit either.
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Those of us who saw it in the theater in 1977 all agree.
I was so young, my mom took me there
Dude same. Your mom was awesome.
Same. We made popcorn at home and brought it to the theater in paper shopping bags. We had to wait in an insanely long line. The film broke during the trash compaction scene and we had to just sit there for ten minutes until they fixed it.
I saw it years later when it was released on HBO in 1983 and I agree.
I presume he means “The Star Wars” if we’re being pedantic
There is only one Star Wars movie. The rest is fanfiction.
Yes
Idk why they called it Christmas “special”, since it’s a single movie-
Weird. I’ve called it “A New Hope” to differentiate it from the other movies since 1990 or so. At the beginning of the movie, when the words are scrolling, it says, “A New Hope.”
That's kind of his point. The original release didn't say that. The rerelease in 1978 did.
The original release didn’t say “A New Hope” in that scrolling text at the beginning of the movie?!?
No, it didn't because at the time Lucas didn't expect to make more movies. He did have the basics for a larger story on his head, but the first movie was made as a standalone, telling the middle part of a larger story. If i remember correctly, when the first movie was being made, Lucas hadn't even decided that Vader would be Luke's father. He thought of that after the movie's success and when it became clear it would beckme a series.
Edit: To finish the story - the title credits were for the first movie were added later, after the original release, when it was clear that more movies would come out and that each one would need a title. But before all of that, the first movie was simply titled "Star Wars"
Also Luke was "Starkiller" for most of the length of the development of the movie.
The scene where Luke rescues Leia from the jail, they filmed it with him being called "Luke Starkiller". Here's Mark Hamill himself telling the story.
https://youtube.com/shorts/w3pvz7rM48Y
Also, don't you mean before that, titled "The Star Wars"? (I honestly don't know, but didn't someone earlier say the original had "the" in the title?) (Edit oh yeah there is a comment saying that but it's another thread on this same post, dk about the veracity)
As I remember it, the original title crawl did indeed say "Episode IV A NEW HOPE." This was despite it being the first movie made -- to give it the feeling of starting in the middle of a larger drama.
When you went outside the Marquee said Star Wars. The VHS says Star Wars. But the movie calls itself STAR WARS Episode IV A NEW HOPE.
Is this splitting hairs? Yes.
EDIT. I was wrong. In 1977 there was no subtitle in the crawl because of FOX. In 1981, there was.
The opening crawl in the first Star Wars film is very different from Lucas's original intention. The original text, used in the rough cut he showed to friends and studio executives in February 1977, appears in the Marvel Comics adaptation of the film. When originally released in May 1977, the first film was simply titled Star Wars, as 20th Century Fox forbade Lucas to use a subtitle on grounds that it could be confusing, since there had been no other Star Wars movies prior to 1977.^[2]^^[10]^ In addition, it was not certain if the film would be followed with a sequel. When The Empire Strikes Back was released in 1980, the episode number, "Episode V", and subtitle "THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK" appeared as the first two lines of the opening crawl.^[citation needed]^ To match its sequel's crawl, the episode number "Episode IV" and subtitle "A NEW HOPE" were added for the film's theatrical re-release in April 1981.
Fox and now Disney made such a good job of erasing it from memory that it has been almost forgotten. But here in this video you can still see how it was back in 1977. Also, other very subtle stylistic choices on font, crawl movement, etc. that were changed for the re-releases. Modern streaming versions are also different from the ones originally on theaters.
I finally found the original, un-fucked with Star Wars without all the Lucas edits and CGI. So much better than the crap they messed with.
If the scrawl says "episode IV" it was already fucked with.
Star Wars mananaged to have each movie retcon something, including the first one. ;)
Look into 4k77 and 4k83 for new hope and return of the Jedi. Idk if 4k80 is done yet for empire. Harmy's despecialized versions are good too.
4k77 + the Biggs deleted scenes 🤍
What’s this? An edited down version of the revised OG trilogy?
No, a group of restorers got hold of an original reel and restored it, so we get to see the original cinematic release.
The picture quality is way better too.
Ok, cool. Thanks. I’ll look for it.
Yeah I’m old enough to have seen it in the theater when it first came out.
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Nub jub
Agh! Get behind me satan!
I called it, "The first movie, Episode 4" to a Gen Z and they were very confused.
Here’s $5. Go watch a Star War.
OK grandpa, let's get you to bed. I'll put on some Star Trek for you.
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