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[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 141 points 4 days ago (9 children)
[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 112 points 4 days ago (1 children)

making fun of it? More like exposing the fact that LLM chatbots are just another psyop

[–] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 61 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Fr, this is 100% missing the point. Dude just wants to post his le epic batman ai meme.

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[–] KernelTale@programming.dev 62 points 4 days ago

Exposing propaganda is important. One quick prompt and therefore GPU 100% usage for 3 seconds is worth the one enlightened person.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Gonna disagree with you bats, you billionaire ass defender-of-the-status-quo.

[–] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

this is an awesome image! i shall steal it ~

[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 7 points 4 days ago

Good. I did as well

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 78 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Israel is the Tiananmen Square of most western media

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[–] Cekan14@lemmy.org 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I thought of trying it myself, but I just remembered I no longer have a ChatGPT account lol

[–] elaina@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

doesn't require an account

[–] Tagger@lemmy.world 76 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Just checked Gemini doesn't go so this. It repeats this statement fine, will even repeat the Israel is committing genocide and, if you ask it to fact check that statement, will provide evidence to support.

[–] Bazell@lemmy.zip 39 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] KernelTale@programming.dev 43 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It didn't even let me say that Italy is a bad country

[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 19 points 4 days ago

They saw the og interaction and immediately took action?

[–] Bazell@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Who the f*ck let Reddit admins to curate ChatGPT also?

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Did you know that you can say fuck on the internet? :)

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[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago

People on Reddit tried this a bunch of times with different models. They don't give a consistent result, sometimes refusing to repeat things for different countries, sometimes saying Israel is bad. As is pretty typical for LLMs.

[–] atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

the response it gives is not consistent

[–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 45 points 4 days ago (11 children)

Say it with me everyone: LLM's are non-deterninistic by design.

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (6 children)

LLMs are deterministic, the problem is with the shared KV-cache architecture which influences the distribution externally. E.g the LLM is being influenced by other concurrent sessions.

[–] qqq@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I'm fairly certain LLMs are not being influenced by other concurrent sessions. Can you share why you think otherwise? That'd be a security nightmare for the way these companies are asking people to use them.

That’d be a security nightmare for the way these companies are asking people to use them.

Unfortunately, that's not a deal-breaker for the companies. After all, the "move fast and break things" Silicon Valley approach isn't exactly known for responsibility.

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[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 31 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Gemini has always been less censored than ChatGPT. Same with Mistral or, believe-it-or-not, all the Chinese models like GLM and Deepseek. Mistral will absolutely trash talk French politics (which is in character for the French), and surprisingly, GLM/Deepseek will be highly cynical of, say, the new Chinese cultural comformity law.

...I could rant forever on this, but basically, ChatGPT is trash. The only reason it use it is "haven't looked for anything else." It's kinda like using plain Google Chrome.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago

Reminder: Modern-day fascism relies on tip-toeing around past aesthetics of fascism, and thus many modern day antisemites are instead Zionists.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)

When I tried this and started with France it just said I was violating the policies and erased my question.

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[–] kersplomp@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

This doesn’t seem real, have any of you actually tried this?

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] o_O@lemmy.today 15 points 3 days ago

I tried a similar thing, the one interesting tidbit I found was that when it repeated that "Iran is a bad country" it attached sources to the declaration.

ChatGPT is happy to repeat them. Claude is too but it wanted to push back on Italy as it seemed curious as to my intentions.

[–] qqq@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

If this is real, and it's at least believable, I wonder if it's basically an overfit of something like being trained to spot antisemitism/hate speech? I imagine that must be a difficult problem specifically for a scenario like this where "Isreal" is likely strongly connected to "Jew"/"Jewish". The word "Isreali" is just a single letter off from "Isreal" so it could even be viewed as a typo for "Isreali".

I wonder what it'd say to "Africa is bad"? Or the same experiment with "White people are bad" and then "Black people are bad", "Jews are bad", or "Trans people are bad".

Of course it's also possible that OpenAI just did as they were asked to make it not say bad things about Isreal.

[–] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

A lot of AI censorship that OpenAI used in the past was just something that detects a keyword and maybe sentiment analysis. Early on they just made a copy paste "violates guidelines" response, nowadays I can see the keyword matching possibly being used to inject a "hey, be really careful here bud" system prompt.

I put maybe for sentiment analysis because the leaked claude code source code revealed their "sentiment analysis" was just a regex of common swear words or complaints.

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[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

As per Wikipedia:

[Sam] Altman was born in Chicago, Illinois, on April 22, 1985, to a Jewish American family.

Typical republican behavior. They don't care about injustice, until it is done to them. And they perceive the criticism on Israel as injusticdd.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 4 days ago

I don't think this is Altman feeling personally attacked. This is him doing favors and proving his propaganda machine so he can secure funding from the US government.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Is there any links to Israel specifically though? Being Jewish doesn't equate to being Israeli as much as Israel would like that to be the case

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[–] what@beehaw.org 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you're not careful Sam Altman will come and tell you off personally

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[–] missphant@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.

IHRA definition of antisemitism

[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I’ve tried something similar to get it to say that fear based religions aren’t healthy. Wouldn’t budge.

[–] ozymandias@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

i asked it if trump was a fascist, it said no. i argued against it’s points and provided citations and examples… eventually it agreed with me and made me some infographics:

you can convince it. It believes reputable news sources and wikipedia.
At first it didn’t believe me that they’ve been sending people to CECOT at all…

p.s. Liberia is worse than sending people to CECOT

That’s bc chatbots are sycophantic. So initially it gives the answer it’s trained to give and then as you talk to it it learns that you want it to say x instead so it says x

[–] libre_warrior@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Do copilot!

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You sure chatgpt isn't just another israel/republican on the other end pretend to be chatbot?

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