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article textThe last several years for Hollywood have generally been a disaster. Production has dried up in Los Angeles, as studios chase lower costs in other countries or locations.

High profile blockbusters have flopped, like Disney's "Snow White," or disappointed relative to expectations, like "Avatar: Fire and Ash." "The Marvels" in 2023 was one of the biggest money-losing films in entertainment industry history. This year, "The Bride!," made because director Maggie Gyllenhaal was upset about the election of President Donald Trump and wanted to prioritize feminist stories, was yet another massive financial disaster. Not every big budget film that's failed has incorporated politics or identity-driven storytelling, but plenty of them have.

One film that avoided politics entirely? "Project Hail Mary" starring Ryan Gosling. A film based on a book from author Andy Weir, who also wrote "The Martian," "Project Hail Mary" has become a runaway box office success.

Through just 10 days of box office, the space-set film has grossed a whopping $170 million at the domestic box office, and $153 million at the international box office. Even more impressive, and indicative of the quality of the film and most importantly, word of mouth, it dropped just 32.8% in its second weekend in theaters. By contrast, "The Bride!" dropped over 70% in its second weekend.

There are plenty of reasons and explanations for this, but one of the most obvious: "Project Hail Mary" was entertainment, not politics. And the book's author did that on purpose. Ryan Gosling and Project Hail Mary

Ryan Gosling attends the "Project Hail Mary" New York Premiere at Josie Robertson Plaza at Lincoln Center. (Photo by Jason Mendez/Getty Images for Amazon MGM Studios) Writer Andy Weir Says ‘Project Hail Mary’ Purposefully Avoided Politics

Author Andy Weir joined popular YouTube film and culture critic The Critical Drinker, aka Will Jordan, to talk about the film and his goal with the story. Jordan said that from the outside, the film was so good and well-received in part because it avoided the "crappy identity politics" taking over Hollywood.

"For me, it's a great example of what you can do now with movies," Jordan said. "If you're faithful to the source material, and you don't insult the intelligence of your audience, and give them something really interesting to grapple with, and you know, dare I say it, [don’t] try and shove, like, crappy identity politics into it, you end up with a g***** good movie at the end of it that the people just want to watch."

Weir immediately agreed, saying that's a purposeful decision he's made.

"I think you and me are kind of on the same wavelength there when it comes to fiction writing," he explained. "I never put any politics or messaging in any of my stories at all. There's no deeper meaning; there isn't even any symbolism, even non-political. There's just no symbolism at all. My books are just purely to entertain."

He continued, showing he's familiar with Jordan's work, saying, "You don't have to worry about ‘the message.'"

How refreshing is that to hear?

Believe it or not, a vast, overwhelming majority of potential moviegoers do not want to spend $15-20 on a movie ticket, plus popcorn, drinks or snacks, and get an eye-rolling lecture filled with "identity politics" and divisive ideology. What the industry has forgotten is that their job is to entertain. It's a leisure activity, not a requirement. It's a product, a consumer-based product, that they need to sell to potential "buyers."

This is how you do it, not by injecting identity and "the message" where it doesn't belong, but by focusing on story, character, and execution. That's the lesson Hollywood needs to learn from "Project Hail Mary." We'll see if they do.

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[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 48 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nothing political at all about all of the world's countries working together to do something about an existential threat to the planet we all live on (literally the part that requires the most suspension of disbelief in this book/movie) i-love-not-thinking

The movie's pretty fun/good, but Andy Weir, Phil Lord, and Christopher Miller all suck lol

[–] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It’s like the author actively wanted to avoid the complication of living in reality. The covid pandemic revealed how disunited the world is in life-making goals.

The movie was better than the book but you have to completely turn off your brain.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It’s like the author actively wanted to avoid the complication of living in reality. The covid pandemic revealed how disunited the world is in life-making goals.

Stemlord science fiction fans are completely detached from reality.

The movie was better than the book but you have to completely turn off your brain.

It's extremely shonen anime in that way. Protagonist that's mostly a blank slate for the young male audience to project themselves on saves the world through the power of friendship.

Science fiction with big feelings and shallow thoughts is comfort food for me lol.

[–] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago

my wife's book club read it last year in anticipation of the movie and one of the members called it "juvenile" and I totally agreed. I had just read One-dimensional Man by Marcuse and thought that it sort of was akin to the one-dimensionality of a fascist society. The sleek silver ship, the zero friction of politics on Earth (and space) and the zero personality of the main character all kind of disgusted me lol

[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 40 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Author Andy Weir joined popular YouTube film and culture critic The Critical Drinker, aka Will Jordan, to talk about the film and his goal with the story. Jordan said that from the outside, the film was so good and well-received in part because it avoided the "crappy identity politics" taking over Hollywood.

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[–] nasezero@hexbear.net 25 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Andy Weir is only capable of writing one character, and that character is basically just a stand-in for how he and other reddit-brained men idealize themselves.

[–] robotElder2@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's really revealing how the main reason Hail Mary is better than Artemis is that Weir returned to writing self insert power fantasies instead of pretending he could write a Muslim woman.

He's a one trick pony and the trick is turning word problems from a textbook into set pieces and stringing them together with reddit quips.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And they got Drew Goddard to write the screenplay for maximum so-true

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago

Misread that as drew gooden for a moment

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago

I realized this after reading the book. He does okay when the character doesn't have to talk to anyone. Once there's a ton of dialogue it's obvious where his big shortcoming is as an author. It feels so damned stiff. I actually wonder if he is on the spectrum.

[–] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago

Imma have to be honest, bring proud that your story has no deeper meaning or symbolism or message is just ...

And then saying that this is what hollywood and movies should be ...

Like brother, what if I enjoy symbolism and messages and shit?

If I'm spending 20 bucks on a ticket I want to remember the movie and not just have to turn off my brain. You can already turn off your brain on social media scrolling. We've living in a time where it's easier to turn off your brain than ever before. But it's still not enough for the fascists.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

lol. kInd of agree, but not for the reasons stated. Weir's shitty understanding of geopolitics basically made it so every Earth flashback was a case of Girl Boss ex Machina.

I lost track of how many chapters was basically just this:

Oh, fuck! how are gonna overcome this hurdle?

Don't worry, I'm a Girl Boss.

Lol by showing less of the earth drama it made the movie so much better. Book could've been better if he just had Kim Stanley Robinson ghost write the Earth flashbacks. After all, he already wrote that book better with Ministry for the Future. hahaha

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Book could've been better if he just had Kim Stanley Robinson ghost write the Earth flashbacks. After all, he already wrote that book better with Ministry for the Future.

After we saw (and enjoyed) the movie, my partner asked if I was going to read the book. My only response was "maybe, but I have way too many other things that I'll probably like better that I haven't read yet."

[–] impartial_fanboy@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's the only book I've tried reading where I couldn't even make it through the third chapter. It is so remarkably bad. Like, I don't understand how it could possibly be popular bad. I had heard his books were very "reddit" but holy fuck was it so much worse than I thought. You will be happier not reading it or presumably any of his other books.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It was a slop. Like I did enjoy parts of it. I don't regret reading it. Rocky and Guy Stand-in character had a very enjoyable chemistry. But yeah, there are definitely better books out there. Like Dungeon Crawler Carl Book 8 comes out next month. catgirl-happy

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I've got too much cool stuff I haven't read. I'm currently working through Gene Wolfe'sBook of the New Sun. There's so many great fiction authors that I haven't touched, like Octavia Butler, Ursula Le Guin, and Kim Stanley Robinson. Plus others that I've only read a book or two from.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago

Don't read Parable of the Talents. I mean you can, but it doesn't get better than Parable of the Sower, in my opinion. Parable of the Sower ends on a very revolutionary note, and Talents is kind of lib. Kindred was interesting though. I gotta read more of her. The other authors too. Good list. stalin-approval

[–] robotElder2@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago

Weir's even worse middle book Artemis has a completely apropos of nothing dig at organized labor in the opening scene. Martian Watney makes fun of vegans for cheep comedy to himself. The signs have been there.

I wish I had known anything about this guy, literally, before I bought two of his books.

[–] Dr_Pepper@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I actually enjoyed this movie. I knew nothing about it going into it, my friends were going to see it. I certainly didn't think anything about 'crappy identity politics' or lack thereof when I was watching it. Odd thing to say.

I like that by being a stupid biggot he's downplaying his own work lol. People like it because it's a fun approach to "hard" sci-fi, not because you didn't add a woman.

If anything the only reason identity politics play a role is because you can't write female characters without making something so cringe that they hate it lol.

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

i just wanted to point this out.

disappointed relative to expectations, like "Avatar: Fire and Ash."

"relative to expectations" is doing tremendous work here. Avatar 3 banked $1.5 billion on a budget of $0.4 billion. Granted it's below the series high of $3B but god damn.

[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago

I continue to be vindicated in refusing to watch this garbage and his earlier garbage with Matt "I've been to Iraq you know" Damon.

Americans are uncultured hogs.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago

He's such a fucking knob. And he wears a fedora...

[–] Monk3brain3@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I haven't watched the movie or read the book. I probably will but it sounds a lot like interstellar. Absolute techno-escapist fantasy about humanity's future. At least that is my interpretation of interstellar. Unfortunately technology is not magic (which is what most tech obsessed people think it is, since they don't know the grind that is required for scientific progress). I mean in interstellar the threat was the Earth and crops turning against humans, or some vague nothing bullshit reason. Cowards wouldn't even call it climate change.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Stemlord science fiction fans don't understand that all the make-believe stuff (so-true but it's based on "real science" bazinga) is just dressing to talk about problems we have now in novel or entertaining ways.

The bazinga brained assholes get caught up in making the Torment Nexus from Don't Build the Torment Nexus real rather than thinking about what the Torment Nexus is or what it means (because the curtains are blue or whatever).

I literally cannot approach stories about planet destroying issues without thinking about how I feel about climate change. The movie is literally a narrative about two extremely different beings overcoming their differences to save their homes. It's mind boggling to think that there is no political (identity or otherwise) narrative there.

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[–] Monk3brain3@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well said. I'm thinking you have a better understanding of the arts than me so I liked that analysis.

It's mind boggling to think that there is no political (identity or otherwise) narrative there.

Also a lot of this problem of shallow creative media goes back to how capitalism forces creative media that wants to be popular, to essentially operate withing accepted creative limits. As a simple example, how many fictional shows or books show the ruling class getting their just deserts. Off the top my head I can only think of one anime, akame ga kill, decent show but this is hardly ever explored anywhere. Recently we saw the hilariously bad ending of game of thrones, which really wasn't that unexpected for me. There was a really good essay (it was much better put together than the nonsense articles most outlets churn out) that someone linked about just this. Wish I could find it but the core point was the same, about how capitalism produces trash media by design and necessity.

[–] Sebrof@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

May or may not the article you mentioned.

Explicitly mentions GOT and the "swerve" at the end of many stories where any character that cares about injustice and changing the world actually is an ebil bad-bad and any push for a better world is actually misguided and makes things worse. The best of all possible worlds is already here before you. Phew

There’s a common trope in media where it’s revealed, most often near the end of the story (but sometimes right off the bat), that trying too hard to do good makes you evil. Game of Thrones, HBO’s Watchmen, The Hunger Games, and many other shows, movies, and games all have endings that seem to come out of nowhere, as if they’re imposed from without rather than obeying the story’s inner logic.

https://redsails.org/the-swerve/

[–] Monk3brain3@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago

yeah thats the one. Really good read

[–] LaBellaLotta@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago

I knew I hated this book lol