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[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Morality is subjective, and as a result moral condemnation carries no weight to anyone but those who already agree with the condemnation. Condemnation isn't meant to directly change the behavior of those who disagree, it's meant to spur those who agree into taking action to combat what they view as immoral.

[–] Kintarian@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Morality is often subjective. In some places it’s immoral for women to show skin or drive a car.

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

OP literally just posted a hot dog water opinion and is going to anyone who disagrees and saying "Nuh uh"

[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Almost like im baiting in a place designed specifically for baiting.

[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Holyginz@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Soo, you are blatantly denying a fact?

[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

No, you are

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I discovered at a very early age that if I talk long enough, I can make anything right or wrong. So either I'm God or truth is relative. In either case, booyah.

[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

You're God. Congratulations. You're like that character in Nurse Jackie.

[–] aggelalex@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)
[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yes, but we're also undervaluing the power of the people who voice their disapproval and the ripple effect it has on other people. What matters, in the end, is the public perception when it determines the type of treatment you get. Do you really want to feel uncomfortable around others regularly?

E: I know it's a shitpost, but let me cook. I'm having thoughts. uwu

[–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 30 points 1 week ago (12 children)

this is bait, and I'm hooked

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[–] QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This post is rage bait, and I'm a rage fish.

[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Rage baiting in shitpost? I would NEVER

[–] gezero@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unless you can prove objective morals exists, subjective morals are the only morals you are left with.

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[–] OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Morality is objectively decided by the society you are apart of, rendering it subjective. If you say im wrong then ill play the nihilism card and say it doesnt matter in the end. Ill always win. Checkmate.

[–] Pman@lemmy.org 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That by definition is subjective. You name anything that is ok in one society or even one area that is frowned upon in another that is subjective morality. For example as times have gotten harder and harder for younger people economically living with their parents in the Global West has become seen as more and more normal and not treating those adults as basement creatures or something.

[–] OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

leans in and whispers Its all subjective

[–] janewaydidnothingwrong@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Well it doesnt matter in the end anyway

It carries precisely the weight it indicates regardless.

When someone says “that’s a horrible/evil thing you’ve done!” They are expressing that you have done something they think is immoral.

How you let that weight impact you depends on you and your ability or inability to control your response to it.

[–] ChetManly@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (16 children)
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[–] randomdeadguy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Homosexuality used to be objectively immoral and to some folks it still is. Morality is an arbitration based on our perceptions of harm, and changes over time. Jaywalking used to be the norm, but a rule was made against it to prevent harm as the world adapted to motor vehicles. The Nazi believed themselves to be morally correct in their actions. If morality is objective, then the threats to a healthy society would always be clear and accurate. Maybe. What do you think? I'm interested to know.

[–] s@piefed.world 5 points 1 week ago

Morality is objectively what I think is good or bad at any given moment but other people are just to dumb to see it

[–] Steve@communick.news 4 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Claiming morality is objective, requires a moral judgement for one rock falling on another and crushing it.

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[–] gigastasio@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Would that go for art too? Like, if you claim that art is subjective, then is it hypocritical to state that something isn’t art?

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

TL/DR - yes. Hell yes even.

What is art or what is good art?

One of my fav definitions of art is "that which was created with the primary intention of invoking an emotional response in the observing subject.

Some would say art which provokes positive or negative emotions is good art, even if it was intended to be only positive. The more powerful the emotional response the better the art. So the Brandenburg Concertos are potentially on the same level of art as say Tiny Tims Tiptoe Through the Tulips, or Rebecca Black's Friday. As music they are all galaxies apart, but as art. Strong emotions all.

Other would say good art provokes strong intended emotions. Like a performance piece about domestic violence is supposed to make you feel strong anger and revulsion. To these same "intentionists" if you found the same piece triggers a dark humour reponse and you lol, it's bad art because it didn't demonstrate mastery of emotional provocation. Closer to home, it means Shitposts are art. We are all artists here. Some masters, some aspiring. I could go on, but why.

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[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago

Your moral condemnation carries the same weight, regardless of your view.

A thought experiment: reveal your claim after your condemnation. Can the weight change? What was the weight before the claim was revealed?

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

At first I was gonna say, maybe morality isn't subjective. Maybe its just our perception of morality that is, and that as an intelligence constrained by our meat, the subjectivity is just a naturally occuring conceptual filter construct that creates the illusion of subjectivity.

Then I realized, I should have just said "yeah".

With apologies to Mitch Hedberg.

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