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[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 61 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Critical for AI

It's critical for lithography, the process that makes all of the magical chips that make the modern world function.

[–] Vupware@lemmy.zip 25 points 4 days ago (3 children)

WSJ is corporatist slop, so it’s no surprise they decided to lead with “ai”. Gotta keep pumping the market.

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[–] Slashme@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But because "AI" sells newspapers, they lead with that.

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[–] brianary@lemmy.zip 38 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Never mind AI, MRIs are more important.

At least we have the US Helium Res— dammit, Biden!

The U.S. just sold its helium stockpile. Here’s why the medical world is worried

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Dammit, Obama maybe - the act was passed by Congress in 2013.

[–] Test_Tickles@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Clinton was the one that started selling off the helium reserves. Obama signed something that changed shit about it, so he certainly didn't do anything to help the situation.

[–] brianary@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago

Ah, good catch.

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Right!? MRI machines need them way more.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 73 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (7 children)

Can I remind everyone that it is impossible to produce helium in a practical way?

It is literally only produced through a fusion reaction, and that happens in stars and in incredibly tiny quantities in fusion reactors.

Whenever it's released, it basically just floats away into space and is lost forever.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 66 points 4 days ago

It’s also produced (slowly) through radioactive decay underground where it becomes trapped with other gasses. That’s the reserve we’ve been working with.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 17 points 4 days ago

The one we can mine is drawn off together with natural gas, and was produced over geological timescales as product of alpha decay of uranium

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Can I remind everyone that it is impossible to produce helium in a practical way?

Sun has been doing it for millions of years and it's a big dumb ball of energy.

Incidentally...

Is it practical? No. Is it producing any Helium right now? No. Is it probably just a big investor scam? Sure. But still more practical than trying to conquer Iran.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

That doesn't actually sound like they intend on producing usable helium though. That sounds like they intend on doing a really difficult and expensive fusion reaction to produce helium 3, which they will then use in a cheaper and easier to do fusion reaction, and the end result of all of that should be electricity and no net new helium since it's expensive and rare AF and they need it all to make the whole process remotely plausibly profitable.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 21 points 3 days ago

Can the AI just talk in a lower voice? I don't see why this is that critical.

The media really can't get it can they I'm fine with AI having problems, I'm supposed to feel sorry for them upsetting some way but I just don't.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

So THIS is how they hallucinate.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So it's going to be rerouted from the MRIs I take it…

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

AI comes first alphabetically. Sorry!

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[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

LOL.

LMAO even.

[–] Cnote5@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

I'm reading all of these comments with the helium-voice in my head.

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 62 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Unfortunately it's also critical for MRIs.

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Yeah, what a crazy headline that AI was the thing mentioned and not 1 of the many other real life uses that offer greater solutions to us.

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 7 points 4 days ago

If only I could believe that's because MRIs are more important so their supply isn't in jeopardy.

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[–] mech@feddit.org 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

And making your voice sound funny

[–] tal@lemmy.today 9 points 4 days ago (3 children)
[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

IIRC it's also one of the worst greenhouse gasses in existence, unfortunately.

Edit: the worst greenhouse gas. Why are cool things always secretly terrible?

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Okay, but do you really think we're going to prioritize the enormous loss-leading CSAM engines over lifesaving medical diagnostics machines?

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[–] SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Maybe we'll get lucky, and by the time the helium supply is restored, we've done away with the shitty not-really-AI craze, saving more helium for things of use to humanity.

[–] Soulphite@reddthat.com 6 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Maybe this is why they're now ramping up going back to the moon? Gonna start fuckin the moon up for all that sweet Helium 3.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

We could be at war with Iran for a century, sending strike teams in to siphon helium out of the ground and smuggle it back to the US in stealth jets and submarines, and it would still be significantly cheaper than trying to mine the moon.

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[–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago (3 children)

It's not like its really used on AI inference, but it's used in high grade semiconductor manufacturing. so helium shortage will hit anything with a modern semiconductors in it. So it's not "whatever".

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I'd guess that most industrial users of helium don't consume it and could theoretically recover it from whatever process it's involved in rather than just releasing it.

EDIT: Hard drives being an exception, as apparently some ship helium-filled; there, it's actually being consumed during the manufacture.

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The problem is that helium is notoriously hard to contain. It's transported and stored super-cooled, but it still gases off, and to release pressure they just have to release it into the atmosphere. It effectively has a shelf life and so it has to be constantly replenished.

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[–] GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 5 points 4 days ago

I realize there are benefits to attacking Iran, but it's still wrong.

[–] homes@piefed.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

This is bad news that feels like good news. Like when your house burns down, but it kills your abusive parents, so you’re kind of happy about it because it means you didn’t have to go through with your plans, and it means you don’t have to become a murderer after all.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 15 points 4 days ago (8 children)

No more medical imaging.
No more fibre optics.
No more semiconductors.
No more laparoscopic or eye surgery.
No more hard drives.
No more titanium.
No more rockets.

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[–] brianary@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 days ago

Helium is needed for MRIs.

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[–] hayvan@piefed.world 6 points 4 days ago

It's not just AI, it's integrated electronics in general.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Also used in MRI machines and semiconductor manufacturing

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 4 points 4 days ago

This sounds like good news.

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