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submitted 9 months ago by marco@beehaw.org to c/technology@beehaw.org

If you share a link from twitter to other platforms you used to see a preview... but not for a while now. Doesn't matter if it's Facebook or Lemmy, twitter.com replies with a 404 on links that work fine even without being logged in.

Are they incompetent or is this a strategy to limit incoming traffic? 🤣

https://developers.facebook.com/tools/debug/?q=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Felonmusk

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[-] ripcord@kbin.social 67 points 9 months ago

Why are you still using Twitter...?

[-] Templa@beehaw.org 16 points 9 months ago

Why do we need to be so pedantic about people use or don't use?

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 9 months ago

Because I have to live on the same planet as the people that spend their time on radicalization tools? Because the more closed platforms are used, the bigger the damage to the open internet they do? Because I can't even get current information on my neighborhood without it being mediated through an oligarch's platform because "that's what everyone else uses"? Because even elected officials are posting information that's not available to people that don't sign up to a service that's owned by neo-nazi?

[-] Templa@beehaw.org 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You have a point but there's a huge chunk of people that aren't well informed enough (we already all know of the people that simply don't care, I'm not talking about those) and still use it.

I have to live on the same planet on people that do a lot of things that I don't agree. That's called living in a society.

You all lose time and energy lecturing people that are already on Fedi because they for some reason that you do not know are engaging with a platform that you don't like. It's just like, we all know Twitter bad. Chill.

[-] VivaLaSully@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago

I agree. Too many people use Twitter to just label them all shitty nazis. It's as idiotic as blaming a whole religious groups for the actions of a few extremists.

And your comment about the uninformed is spot on. Tons of people are just not thinking about all this stuff for one reason or another, and in a sense I don't blame them. If it wasn't for my child I'd love to bury my head in the sand and just try and get through this maelstrom called life.

Like you said, most people just think Twitter sucks now and move on, at this rate musk will kill it for good in the next 5 years. That or it becomes a pathetic echo chamber like truth social.

[-] Templa@beehaw.org 2 points 9 months ago

I think it will die earlier, but who knows haha

Thank you for the reply, I'm not as good as exposing my opinions as English is my second language, but you understood exactly what I meant!

If people would consider that a lot of people are easily charmed by big corporations because they offer convenience/easy to use service mostly because they barely have time for themselves I think the world would be a better place.

[-] VivaLaSully@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago

I agree, mate. And your English is better than mine and it's my only language, very articulate.

[-] ripcord@kbin.social 11 points 9 months ago

Why do we care if people support this Nazi platform or its owner?

You might not, I wouldn't call caring about it pedantic though.

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 9 points 9 months ago

But how will people know I'm a cool edgy internet user if I don't post "fuck twitter" and "AI bad" on every article without thinking that maybe people wanted to have a discussion about it?

[-] joenforcer@midwest.social 5 points 9 months ago

Sir, this is Lemmy. The correct terms are "fuck cars" and "capitalism bad".

[-] Random_German_Name@feddit.de 4 points 9 months ago

Based Lemmy

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 2 points 9 months ago

"Capitalism bad" is the most annoying one. We're all reminded every day that capitalism is bad, comments which just mechanically repeat an overwhelmingly popular opinion without adding anything to the discussion are something I hoped we'd left to die with reddit.

What's so fundamentally different about Lemmy that made you think that the people would act differently than normal?

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 2 points 9 months ago

I figured the buttom-of-the-barrel commenters wouldn't care about the enshittification and couldn't be bothered to move!

Okay I see where you're coming from with that. Unfortunately it seems those commenters are everywhere!

[-] pbjamm@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago

fuck artificial ignorance!
wake up sheeple

[-] vivadanang@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

as long as you know you're still hanging out at the nazi bar, I guess there's no further discussion.

[-] nicetriangle@kbin.social 13 points 9 months ago
[-] key@lemmy.keychat.org 42 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

"ChatGPT is stealing our content! Make it so scrapers can't get anything back from us"

"But web scrapers also are--"

"I don't care!"

[-] Zworf@beehaw.org 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's a funny thing you mention. We were told to block chat.openai.com recently by our CTO who was afraid of data leaks of internal information. Not a bad idea honestly.

But one of my colleagues made a salient point... In that case we should do the same with Google Translate, we've been sending them gazillions of gigabytes of internal emails and other sensitive stuff. And it's also a company we also don't have any formal business or data management contract (GDPR!) with?

"Just block ChatGPT" was the answer, but it was certainly a good point. This is the thing about hypes. It makes people think things are 'special' cases when in fact they are not. Google probably has a LOT more visibility on our company than OpenAI.

Also they are worried about the MS version of ChatGPT because it's "not as good" (uuh it's literally the same engine) and also have data concerns even though we do have data management contracts with them and they put it black on white that they're not using our data for any kind of model training.

[-] dan@upvote.au 2 points 9 months ago

I've seen a few companies here where ChatGPT is blocked and they use the Microsoft Azure version of it, often since they're already using Azure or Office 365 and Microsoft can probably just add it to the same contract.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 32 points 9 months ago

It's not a bug, it's a feature.

Twitter knows people don't want Twitter accounts so they try to coerce you into signing up to see what people are sharing.

I've been using Squawker with great success, unlike all the other frontends that are constantly broken.

[-] marco@beehaw.org 6 points 9 months ago

It shows up fine, even in incognito mode - it's only when the link is scraped!?!

[-] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 9 months ago

Is it the same with other profiles?

[-] marco@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago

All the profiles and tweets I tried ...

[-] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 27 points 9 months ago

It speaks volumes that people are so ensconced in their worldviews that sharing links on the open Web to sites that require an account to view content on causes zero cognitive dissonance.

I'd be very curious to see the Venn diagram of people who see no problem spamming the web like this and people who complain about links to paywalled sites.

[-] ulkesh@beehaw.org 27 points 9 months ago

The inevitable result of an egregiously rich man-baby trying to stick it to the “woke”. I left Twitter the moment that idiot took over. Twitter is a cesspool and a joke now. Time to move on.

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 9 months ago

just share the nitter.net link instead :)

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Just out of curiosity, what happens when you switch it to x.com?

edit: I guess it doesn’t matter because it looks like they decided to start forwarding x.com links to the twitter.com version now. That’s new.

[-] marco@beehaw.org 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 17 points 9 months ago

Rebrand is going great.

[-] Pamasich@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

it looks like they decided to start forwarding x.com links to the twitter.com version now. That’s new.

That was always the behavior for me from the start. I click on an x.com link, it brings me to twitter.com. Never was any different.

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 9 months ago

I’ll take your word for it, I was certain at one time it resolved to itself, but maybe that was a short experiment or I’m just not remembering correctly.

[-] Pamasich@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

but maybe that was a short experiment

Could be, I don't click on Twitter/X links often so I could have easily missed that.

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 9 months ago

Same here, I haven’t tried it in a while so I’m basing off old memories at best.

[-] Zoidberg@lemm.ee 14 points 9 months ago

Twitter is a mess that we can see. Imagine all the shit hidden on Tesla software that we can't.

[-] bl4kers@beehaw.org 7 points 9 months ago

I presume this is on purpose considering they're moving towards tweets not being public (account required to view). Showing the tweet in the preview would be an easy way to get way around this

[-] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 months ago
[-] Zworf@beehaw.org 7 points 9 months ago

Firing all your staff tends to make that happen :)

[-] pirrrrrrrr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago

Fxtwitter.com

They're fixing most of this nonsense.

[-] dan@upvote.au 2 points 9 months ago

This service really shouldn't have used "Twitter" in its domain name... Twitter/X would easily win a UDRP dispute if they decided to file one, since it contains their trademark.

[-] marco@beehaw.org 2 points 9 months ago

I tried that and it wasn't working for me. Just redirected to regular Twitter...

[-] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 9 months ago

It's only for embeds afaik

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