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OP, per Rule 3, posts with an image of text should have a transcription in the body or the alt-text.

Since I totally dropped the ball and missed this by nearly a day, I'll make one myself:

Cattle are killed at 12 months. Cattle can live 20 years. Pigs are killed at 5 months. Pigs can live 20 years. Chickens are killed at 5 weeks. Chickens can live 10 years.

These animals that you are paying to be tortured and killed are babies. They have lived only a fraction of their lives and what they have endured would make any sane person weep.

Please, in the future, be mindful of this rule. Making the world accessible for everyone is a worthwhile cause and based on the same principles of empathy and equity that veganism is.

I cant stand how ppl downvote a vegan post in a vegan space.

There are no lies here. We farmed animals growing up. If thier early death makes you uncomfortable, stop eating animal products.

Vegans: Make a community for themselves

Meat-eaters: See block button. Choose to downvote/comment against it instead.

If posts about veganism are that offensive to you, just block and move on. If there were a com about meat-eating, that’s what I’d do with it.

Okay, all you wonderful, reasonable people, I’m ready for your downvotes!

It's not that people think of it as "good", they just don't think about it at all. Most people don't think about where their food really comes from, and where their demand for meat exists, capitalism maximizes profits.

Then there are other issues, like lack of empathy, or just not regarding animals as deserving of life. Some non-vegans may know the source of their food but they simply don't care.

And then there's always cognitive dissonance where they might care, but they shove that in the back of their mind and justify eating meat anyway.

All this makes it difficult for a one-size-fits-all approach to educating non-vegans in hope they'll change their eating habits. It's not a matter of truth or good, it's a complex matter of knowing, having the capacity for empathy, recognizing animals as deserving of empathy, and then believing that this information is more important than their desire to eat meat.

I will bite, my take is that responsibility, accountability and empathy are all things lacking in society that encourages and rewards selfishness and betterment of self above all else. It really is a shock when you mention these things to people that then associate what you are saying with “their” food. You are attacking the very sense of self, ego and identity which leads to defensive reactions that are not based on logic let alone empathy. The only way to change this is to address the systemic reliance on self promotion and preservation, but this means equality and communities at all levels to not discriminate amongst people within them and support them with basic needs, including quality education that supports critical thinking and comprehension. With this, people will be more receptive and it will be less about advocating on behalf of those species that can’t or fighting against long held traditions and more that they will find this to be a reasonable thing that they conclude themselves because they no longer have to fight for their place or status in society.

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Honestly, eating vegan, or even vegetarian, is too much of a hassle for most people most of the time, and that's by design. So is eating anything that isn't 80% corn syrup and processed sugar. Our society prioritizes cheap and/or artificial over everything else. Until that changes at a systemic level people aren't going to change their eating habits.

This is true for much more than just food as well. Most won't stop using plastic until the alternatives are cheaper and more accessible. Same with renewable energy, public transportation, pesticides, polyester clothing, etc. Most people are fundamentally lazy and will not go out of their way to do something beneficial for others unless they have a financial incentive to do so. Awareness of a problem only elicits a response in a small minority of the population.

Just a nitpick on the numbers. It very much depends on environment, species, the farmer, and other factors as to when animals are harvested. I only farm vegetables personally today. But I know a lot of farmers. I imagine it also varies by country as well. If you want to make a good defense against animal products to an audience accustomed to them, being accurate can be important

Chickens are processed at 10-16 weeks depending on breed. They are not tortured when processed. They are tortured when they are alive. Be upset at factory farming not eating meat. A properly raised and processed bird doesn't suffer and has a happy life. Problem is, that costs a lot more.

Source: raise and eat my own chickens and eggs