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Hey lemmy. I've been paying out of pocket to get stickers printed from online printing companies. But its getting expensive and I think I'd like to get a printer to do the job.

HOWEVER, I've been avoided getting a printer, because, well, the whole thing is just a shit show. Our household went through like a printer a year for almost four years. Between ink prices, and the printers just failing, we threw our hands up and said fuck it. Not playing this game, so we shifted to printing services or the local library.

So I'm looking for a very basic (I think?) printer. Honestly, a black only printer might even be fine. I've heard I think that maybe Canons or Brothers are the ones you want and HP's are to be avoided. The purpose of the printer will be to print stickers on sticker paper. What printer should I buy?

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[–] clif@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Like other posts - brother, laser.

My ancient HP laserjet died a few months back so I picked up a brother. It amazed me that I just plugged it in (Linux) and it worked. No hplip, no cups config, just worked.

Even more impressive, I tried the network/wifi print out of curiosity and it also just worked... Nothing special, Debian 13 auto discovered it on the network and added it to my printer list.

I had the HP for over 15 years and it was always a bitch to get working with Linux. Hoping this brother lasts at least as long.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 days ago

Brother is the only real choice. Their MFC are very versatile and handy and quite reasonable.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Brother laser printers are my current go to

[–] ApollosArrow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My wife has a brother black/white laser printer. I got it about 5yrs ago and still going with no issues. She does sell things and makes labels and also uses a small thermal printer that pumps out label packages. Not sure if that can double for stickers for you, but could be an option.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

My Brother printer can legally vote in the next election and it's still kickin

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Brother laser printer. Mine's going on 9 years now, a cartridge lasts so long I have to look up how to change it when it finally needs it.

[–] Skanky@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

I've had mine for about that long and changed the toner cartridge once. It's super easy. I think I paid like $80 for two cartridges. Guess I'm good for another 20 years.

[–] Sequentialsilence@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (4 children)

You are correct that Canon and Brother tend to be the best straight forward printers. Brother is better for laser printing and Canon is better for ink jet printing. If you go ink jet go with individual cartridges instead of the combined cartridges it’s way less fuss.

If you can do laser the basic Brothers just work. We had one in our woodshop for almost a decade. Sawdust spray paint etc. and it just did not care. It didn’t end up dying even, we just swapped it for a color version, and we’re on year 4 with that one.

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I've got a small Canon MFC laser printer/copier. No complaints at all. It only prints black and white but I tend to scan more than print so that was a big focus for me when I bought it.

[–] regedit@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Now THIS is a recommendation! My next printer (fuck HP) will be a Brother laser printer!

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[–] mech@feddit.org 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Color Ink: Epson Ecotank (no cartridge bullshit)
B/W: Brother HL-L Series Laser (bulletproof, long-lasting, cheap)

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I found my Brother HL out on the curb on a lightly rainy day. I had passed by it on my walk thinking it was an Epson inkjet, but on my way back I saw it was one of those Brother BW lasers the Internet nerds always go on about so I brought it inside and dried it off.

Fired right up and has been handling my once a month or so printing duties ever since, still on the same toner that I found it with. Best non-commercial printer I've ever used.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Would there be any advantage to going just black and white?

[–] mech@feddit.org 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The advantage is that you can get a cheap laser printer.
They'll happily print every day for years and cost next to nothing to run.
They'll also happily print after you didn't use them for a long time.
Ink printers are generally less durable, cost more to run and their heads dry out if you don't use them regularly.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Color laser printers are expensive, big, and the color isn’t good enough for photos, only colored documents.

I own two (identical) color laser printers, can confirm two out of three. They're gigantic and the color isn't very vibrant.

However, they weren't all that expensive because I got them used. Still not quite dirt-cheap like a black & white laser is, but affordable.

[–] yaroto98@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

My brother color laser is decent, but the toner is expensive. So expensive that i buy knockoff toner. Which 95% of the time is solid. Until every once in a while a kid needs something printed that's a photo. Not sure why, but it is absolute garbage at photos. Like not even close. Streaks and bands of color everywhere. I'm not even trying fancy photo paper, just trying to get details. A caffeinated adhd toddler with fistful of crayons could do better.

But if you want to print a worksheet in color? Does fantastic.

Advantage being you only have to buy one toner cartridge and drum.

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[–] CMLVI@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Depending on the age, you may need a new drum unit, but I think that may also just be a deficit of laser.

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[–] Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Toner is cheaper if you have a laser black only, lots of pages per refill.

At work I've installed 10 color inkjet epson L6460 printers 2-3 years ago and most of them I still haven't refilled.

They come with 2 bottles of black ink and one of everything else, last forever, will print after 4 months unused if you do a print head cleaning (a few times in a row) and the Epson brand bottles are 8 - 12 bucks each.

For home use a cheaper Ecotank would probably serve you just as well.

[–] affenlehrer@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago

Black and white is more common in laser printers, less complex, cheaper and it takes up less room.

Laser printers don't just shoot color particles on the paper like ink jet / piezo printers.

They "magnetize" a photo conductor so the toner particles stick to it and then usually transfer it to the paper using pressure and then fix it using heat. You can't really do the first part for multiple colors at the same time so color lasers can get pretty complex to repeat this process for each color (CMKY, sometimes more).

So why not an ink printer instead?

  • If you use them often they will cost you a lot. Printer manufacturers love ink printers because they can basically sell water (with a tiny bit of color) for the price of gold. That's also the reason why they put you much effort into detection of original ink cartridges.
  • If you don't use them often, the print heads tend to clog and guess what the printers use to flush them? Copious amounts of liquid gold (ink).
[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Cost is like 100 times less per page.

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[–] PetteriPano@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

We recently retired our color laser printer of ten years for an epson ecotank. I'm happy with it two months in, and only the black has depleted some 10% with the Mrs doing a couple of color copies daily.

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 3 points 2 days ago

EcoTanks are so cool, you can buy their colors for cheap, you can get all colors refills for 15-20€ but they will last forever, bought last year, used them a lot for documents a few photos and a DnD sheet (with image included) and the tank is still full

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[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

If you are fine with ink printers, get inktank which you can refill yourself with pretty much any ink you can find. Never buy ink cartridge one like ever. Also, I would opt out of ink printers if you are not using them so often and if speed is preferable. They are slow as fuck and in my experience, a seldom used printer would at some point clog and it is pretty much impossible to clean this shit out.

As for laser ones, get preferably Brother. I have Lexmark and their toners can be refilled at home which is nice but I believe Brother toners if not easily refillable at home, can be refiled at print shops for cheap. Also, look for part availability so that in case of some part become broken, you can easily get a replacement off the web. Then you're set!

[–] EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago
[–] RustyShackleford@piefed.social 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

What’s your budget, here’s 2 options and they should work with the sheets.

Brother HL2405 $139: https://a.co/d/0bHDQ885

Brother HL2460DW $179: https://a.co/d/0ccXVUgP

[–] Alberat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I had a brother printer (mfc) that i bought and gave to my friend after a couple years. bought another and the colors are off but it works. the ink dries out tho so i was thinking my next printer might use toner/lasers. i just buy ink cartriges, i don't refill.

Brother laser or bust. I use mine once a month Max and it's been years since I even serviced it, they simply last forever with no maintenance. Color laser is significantly more expensive for the initial buy than inkjet but supplies are infinitely cheaper per-page. Problem being I don't know how laser behaves with most sticker package paper, so you'll need to research your preferred stickers to make sure they are compatible.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Make sure you know the price of sticker paper and whether you’re really saving any money.

I think canons been enshittified, but mines been solid for over a decade. I buy cheap third party ink, and the difference is big enough to save money even if it’s another cartridge per session. Realistically I haven’t printed anything in like two years

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Only advice I can give is if you are just printing on paper, pay the extra $ and get a laser printer. Avoid inkjets - they are a complete scam and a waste of money. The toner will last 10x longer, never goes bad or clogs up the print heads, and the quality is better.

I don't know how laser printers handle sticker sheets, but for all practical printing purposes I wholeheartedly recommend a laser printer.

Brother is also a solid brand. I have had mine for almost 10 years now and it's still running like the day I got it.

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[–] CMLVI@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Echoing others, Brother laser printers. Cheap, reliable, and toner lasts forever. Initial one with purchase is like...40% of standard, and will still get you a few hundred pages. The regular ones are like 1200+, and the large ones are I think pushing 2k for like $70.

You can do stickers on sticker paper with lasers, but idk the quality. Is it like...address labels? If so, lasers are perfect tly fine for that. Fine details? Idk.

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

Old Brother laser printers are great. They're easy to find used, but it's unclear if they're still being made. For stickers there are thermal printers for just that purpose if you want to go that route.

[–] MuttMutt@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can't say much about brands, I bought a Samsung color laser years ago and still use it.

What I will say is being able to network print is amazing and well worth having. I can print from my tablet, phone, or desktop.

[–] Tess@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My samsung printer had terribly unreliable network access. I could never figure out what its problem was.
In the end I connected a raspberry pi zero with a cups server to the usb port and let that one handle all the printer requests. It works so much better now.

[–] MuttMutt@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The only issue I've had was when I switched to Linux. I set a static IP address in the printer when I first got it and always connect it via Ethernet. I've had it for a while but since Samsung sold off their printer brand a couple years later to HP I'm obviously not recommending them.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

After a long time with HP printers, i switched to Epson Ecotank series. Way better with regards to ink usage and prices.

Key features for me: all-in-one device that also scans and copies, feeder for the scanner, double-sided printing, color.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

See if you can find a used Brother laser printer. The older Brother printers are fantastic. I thought I heard somewhere Brother had started to enshitify their newer products (last coulple of years). But I might be wrong there.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago

I hear that once in a while, but so far it seems to be mostly haters have to take everything to the extreme vs a real problem. Still things could change.

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[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago

The Brothers are really good, but the Ricohs closely behind and a little cheaper. Both with relatively few bullshit going on.

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[–] otter@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Instead of buying a new printer, can you print at a local print shop/library/university? That might end up being the cheapest option

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I have been for a few years. ITs time to buy my own. Also, some of the contents of the stickers are.. well.. sensitive to say the least.

[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago

Brother, you need a brother

[–] NathanUp@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Unless you're printing just a sheet or two at a time, it's unlikely that you're going to be able to print stickers for less than buying from a commercial printer.

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