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You can take "justifiable" to mean whatever you feel it means in this context. e.g. Morally, artistically, environmentally, etc.

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[–] awmwrites@lemmy.cafe 31 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (13 children)

My current list of reasons why you shouldn't use generative AI/LLMs

A) because of the environmental impacts and massive amount of water used to cool data centers https://news.mit.edu/2025/explained-generative-ai-environmental-impact-0117

B) because of the negative impacts on the health and lives of people living near data centers https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy8gy7lv448o

C) because they're plagiarism machines that are incapable of creating anything new and are often wrong https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/does-ai-limit-our-creativity/ https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2024/06/20/why-ai-has-a-plagiarism-problem/

D) because using them negatively affects artists and creatives and their ability to maintain their livelihoods https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2713374523000316 https://www.insideradio.com/free/media-industry-continues-reshaping-workforce-in-2025-amid-digital-shift/article_403564f7-08ce-45a1-9366-a47923cd2c09.html

E) because people who use AI show significant cognitive impairments compared to people who don't https://www.media.mit.edu/publications/your-brain-on-chatgpt/ https://time.com/7295195/ai-chatgpt-google-learning-school/

F) because using them might break your brain and drive you to psychosis https://theweek.com/tech/spiralism-ai-religion-cult-chatbot https://mental.jmir.org/2025/1/e85799 https://youtu.be/VRjgNgJms3Q

G) because Zelda Williams asked you not to https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0r0erqk18jo https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-07/zelda-williams-calls-out-ai-video-of-late-father-robin-williams/105863964

H) because OpenAI is helping Trump bomb schools in Iran https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2026/03/06/openai-pentagon-tech-surveillance-us-citizens/88983682007/

I) because RAM costs have skyrocketed because OpenAI has used money it doesn't have to purchase RAM from Nvidia that currently doesn't exist to stock data centers that also don't currently exist, inconveniencing everyone for what amounts to speculative construction https://www.theverge.com/news/839353/pc-ram-shortage-pricing-spike-news

J) because Sam Altman says that his endgame is to rent knowledge back to you at a cost https://gizmodo.com/sam-altman-says-intelligence-will-be-a-utility-and-hes-just-the-man-to-collect-the-bills-2000732953

K) because some AI bro is going to totally ignore all of this and ask an LLM to write a rebuttal rather than read any of it.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Good list, but we should keep it real.

C is simply wrong, AIs have created a lot. By the reasoning that its only based on the inputs, no human has ever created anything "new" because it is all based on their experiences of the outside world.

F is simply fearmongering and not helpful.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago

And the plagiarism part? There’s a difference between derivative work based on the spirit of someone else’s work and flat out using someone else’s work. It’s the whole reason those laws exist.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago

I appreciate all these links you post. Keep it up and thank you

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[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The best use of AI I've seen thus far is reading legislative bills. Those monstrosities are so fucking long and filled with earmarks that it's next to impossible to understand what is in them.

Having an AI not only read the bill but keep a watch of it as it goes through Congress is probably the best use of AI because it actually helps citizens.

I am on record saying we need an AI that can track prices of various things that can then predict when the best time it is to buy something.

I want an AI bot that saves me money or gets me a good deal or extracts money from the capital class.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

Except they can screw up at that role.

There's a lawsuit because DOGE asked ChatGPT to summarize projects DEI-ness, and for example it declared a grant for fixing air conditioning was a DEI initiative

[–] jtzl@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Indeed:

ChatGPT determined that this was related to DEI, responding, “Yes. Improving HVAC systems enhances preservation conditions for collections, aligning with the goal of providing greater access to diverse audiences. #DEI.”

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[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Medicine.

Evidence shows that some highly specialised models are better at things like detecting breast cancer in scans than human doctors.

Properly anonymised automatic second scans by an AI to catch the markers that human doctors miss for another review by a specialist is an excellent potential use case for an LLM AI.

Transcription services can save doctors huge amounts of admin time and allows them to focus on the patient if they know there's a reliable system in place for typing up notes for a consultation. As long as it's treated as a "please review these notes are accurate" rather than treated as a gospel recording and the data is destroyed once it's job is complete and the patient has been able to give informed consent.

The way these things are being used in actual medical contexts right now is frankly terrifying.

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I had a colonoscopy last year (such fun!) and there was an 'AI' monitoring the camera feed to detect anomalies. If it spotted something it just drew the doctor's attention to it for his expert, human review. I was ok with that. Effectively an extra pair of eyes that can look everywhere on the screen all at once and never blink.

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[–] Anbalsilfer@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I have autism and ADHD, and have been frustrated throughout my entire life by my inability to realize any of my numerous ideas due to double executive dysfunction. While I see many drawbacks from using these models - the most serious one as it currently stands being their water consumption - I've come to consider them a very important support tool for people in a similar position as myself.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I hear you. A lot of times my ideas are just a "vibe", and starting is the hardest part. I haven't used AI much at all, but I can see how having a prompt to get you started can get the creative ball rolling.

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[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Scientific use on your own massive data sets(think 100s of TB) - Sure

Consumer chatbot uses - May give the illusion of positive results, whereas the long-term outcome is an overall negative effect on the user.

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago

Give me back my Google search from 10 years ago and alright, no need for AI.

Nowadays Google is so unusable that I actually go to Claude first if I need to research something.

[–] Iconoclast@feddit.uk 12 points 3 weeks ago

Ofcourse, but I know better to not even bother trying to have a civil discussion about it here.

[–] Pinetten@pawb.social 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I think anything with text generation is fine. Your multiple Google searches are highly likely to eat more resources than that. Also, fuck Google, use Ecosia. But when I suspect an answer isn't one quick search away, I happily rather use Le Chat for answers, than give Reddit traffic, or have to wade through the shite that is Fandom, Wikia or whatever. Not to mention using AI helps me get past the issue of having to check multiple sites for an answer, just to find that the answer is "Google it" or "Nvm, solved it". Some of you fuckers did this.

However people need to understand that an AI is exactly as fallible as any person. Yes, it has access and capability to handle way more data but between trying to please you and just it getting it's wires crossed, it's going to make mistakes. YOU need to be able to assess the accuracy of the output. The more important the topic, the more careful you need to be and always assume that the possibility of error is there no matter how hard you try - JUST LIKE WITH ANY BIT OF INFORMATION. I see so many people cite academic articles like they prove whatever claim they are making, just to see that the study in question was funded by The Company That Wants to Prove The Claim and sample size was 3 people who work for The Company That Wants to Prove The Claim. At least AI has a small chance of pointing the issue out if YOU yourself tell it to be critical - and I actually suspect this is part of the reason some people hate AI. They don't like that it absolutely can be more intellectually rigorous than a person with an emotional investment in whatever they want to be true. Yes, you can have an AI asspat your grandest delusions but if you actually try to get it to be critical, it will be. You can use a hammer to hit people, or you can use it on a nail as intended (and how many times you hit your own fingers is on you, not the hammer).

I would draw a line on artwork, videos, music. While I'm not going to crucify actual artists using AI assistance to take out some tedium from a project, I still wouldn't encourage it. Stolen artwork to train AI is one thing and the environmental impact is VASTLY greater than just text. Generating one AI image can use as much energy as even a 1,000 text responses. I would also really like to be able to completely opt out of AI slop in media sites. I fucking hate that Soundcloud allows it.

And a last point on AI text responses: if you saw the rise of alt-right and the anti-vaxx stuff, you probably are familiar with gish galloping and Brandolini's Law. If not, you really fucking should be. AI can make it so much easier to debunk misinformation. YES it can make it easier to perpetuate too but this is where we see the AI weapons race. Bad actors can AND WILL use AI to fill any void with their rhetoric. If you value truth and facts and want to prevent misinformation from spreading you are gimping yourself if you're not using AI.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I use Suno on occasion. I enjoy writing poetry, and being able to turn it into a song is something I find fun and inspirational, driving me to write more than I have in decades. I could never, ever write a chord of music.

I don't share it. It's just for personal gratification. If it's super good maybe I'd share with some friends in discord who are super into AI. Thing is, part of a song might be super good, but I've never had an entire song turn or the way I want. And I've found no one ever thinks a song is as good or interesting as the prompter.

AI is like the cheap consumer goods of art and thought. Cheap, but not quality or durable. It works and looks great if gently used, but as soon as it gets any real pressure or scrutiny, it falls apart.

I think it's likely, if we continue down that path, to be the artistic equivalent of IKEA vs a master woodworker. You can buy an end table for $30, or you can but something hand crafted from teak and mahogany for $3000. A lot of people like IKEA, but if they weren't around a nice end table might be $600 and be heirloom quality (if not as good as the $3k one). But today that middle market doesn't exist. Rather it does, but it's filled with IKEA quality shit dressed up to look a bit nicer temporarily. I don't know, maybe my analogy fell apart.

I'm just saying that these things are fun and interesting on an individual level, but I agree they shouldn't be commercial. We should just make it so that there are no enforceable rights granted on anything AI produces. It can be freely copied and distributed. But that doesn't help real artists make a living. And their work should be appreciated and respected (and result in a lifestyle that affords them the ability to keep making art).

[–] Pinetten@pawb.social 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't agree with the use but at least you're keeping it private. Not gonna crucify you because I understand the appeal. I'd encourage you to find a way to pay for it though, or even just start making a donation to some environmental cause as a way of off-setting.

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[–] jtzl@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago

I had never heard of Ecosia, thank you v much!

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)
  1. The sciences obviously

  2. For me personally, data collation

  3. Learning

  4. Assisting with Linux sysadmin stuff (used to be a "how do I X" meant hours of scouring online forums and asking questions that might be deleted because draconian forum rules or get answered weeks later if at all, now I can get shit done in minutes)

   5. I also use it a lot to explore ideas and arguments, like a sort of metaphysical sparring partner.

[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not going away. The cat is out of the bag.

As with any tool it has its use cases. It's not a good fit for everything. You can drive a screw with a hammer but a screwdriver works best.

We're experiencing the capitalist euphoria that happens when something new comes along. This needs to get regulated into submission like all the previous bubbles.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Would an upscaler be considered generative? Really all I can think of, but I do believe calling those generative is also a little bit of a stretch using the basic idea of "generation" extremely loosely.

Oh, and helping find new chemicals for medicine and other medical research. Of all the things that might benefit from "throwing everything at a wall and seeing what sticks," that's the only real good use it could be.

[–] CodenameDarlen@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Ask programmer bros who work on corporative hell.... It's almost mandatory today if you want to earn money programming.

If you're in a dev company that doesn't require AI, it's just a matter of time.

I think programmers are like 90% responsible for impact on environment due to AI use. I've a friend who work on a big company, they use AI literally everywhere you can imagine, even on Slack to answer other colleagues messages. They need to feed huge codebases to provide context to AI, at the end it's more resource hungry than generating video or images a few times a day.

[–] Libb@piefed.social 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Everything can be justified. Even the most... miserable actions. Here is one: I let a kid drown, because I was busy saving a couple other kids that were drowning too. It's a legit choice but it is also not ok, and I would not want to be in the shoes of anyone having to face that situation and to live with the aftermath.

Regarding AI, I don't think the question should be whether it is justifiable or not. It's a tool, it needs no justification beside filling a purpose like a hammer or even a gun do.

The question should be to decide if we're OK a tool (that has been developed using humanity common knowledge) and that will deeply change all our lives and all of humanity future to be owned and controlled by a handful multi-billionaires that are already actively working their worst to make the world unfit to most of us. Or if we want for that tool to be ours and to be able to decide by ourselves what limit we want to put on its usage.

Well, at least that’s what I think.

I have no hate towards AI. No more than I hate a hammer (edit: or a gun) when someone use it to commit a murder. I’m much more critical of the way AI is not developed as a common good… which to me is unacceptable for a tool that only exists because because of our common knowledge.

[–] Canopyflyer@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

LLM's have their use, there is no doubt about that. I'm in the middle of creating a home brew campaign for my D&D group and unfortunately I'm a lousy artist and I wanted a few things visualized. Well, I used a photo generating AI to create something that had the visual I wanted. I'm going to use it for my campaign and it will probably just sit on my hard drive after I'm done.

My employer is rolling out AI and is asking us to find places to insert it into our workflows. I am doing that with my team, but none of us are really sure if it will be of any benefit.

The problem right now is we're at the stage where idiots are convinced it is something that it is not and they have literally thrown 10's of billions of dollars at it. Now... They are staring at the wide abyss that is the amount of money they invested vs the amount of money people are willing to pay for it.

I've seen arguments for and against the presence of an AI bubble... Personally, I think it's a bubble that's so large that it will take down several long established computer industry manufacturers when if pops. Those that are arguing its absence probably have large investments that they do not want to see fail.

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[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

All the uses I can come up with involve running them locally with my own training for specific uses.

One example could be to train one on my drawings to speed up the colouring or fleshing out sketches.

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No. I want to talk to a living machine mind, not a complexified chatbot controlled entirely by ultrarich techbro overlords.

[–] Melobol@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

I do love llms they have their limited use cases. But the problem is that humanity is right now playing with a loaded gun.
If we would learn how to use it properly, it would be just another useful tool. But we are incapable of being respectful of anything that's not within our sight. An sometimes not even if it is within.
Our greed and laziness is what makes it bad. All those psychotic breaks? All those easy to exploit safeguards? Loosing our cognitive ability? Wasting money on unproven systems to make more money?
Humans are the problem.
Honestly I am waiting for AI caused copyright hellscape apocalypse. If everything is free, everything is free - and they can't make money. It will be an 'interesting ride' for the years to come.

[–] Astrius@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

All I ever do with AI is use it to correct my grammar or tone.

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[–] Dumhuvud@programming.dev 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

GenAI is a plagiarism machine. If you use it, you're complicit.

Ethics aside, LLMs in particular tend to "hallucinate". If you blindly trust their output, you're a dumbass. I honestly feel bad for young people who should be studying but are instead relying on ChatGPT and the likes.

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[–] fizzle@quokk.au 4 points 3 weeks ago

Anyone who gets paid according to their productivity, like self employed people, is going to "justify" the use of Gen AI if it genuinely makes them more productive.

No one is going to voluntarily reduce their income by even 10% just so they can say they don't use Gen AI.

I'm in this category, but honestly there are few situations where I've found it to be sufficiently helpful.

However, I think it's possible that more mature implementations of the tech we already have could change that.

For example, I don't think voice assistants have reached their potential yet. If they weren't always listening trying to figure out what to sell me, and they had a better range of actions they could perform, I might find myself using one more regularly.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yes I suck at the conversation piece of emails in certain scenarios and having a soundboard to bounce off of helps. I still know when it spews things in not quite a fan of but it does do the heavy lifting for me.

Even so, still not a fan overall. It's like launching a nuke at a country to kill a rat. It's so bad for the environment, our brains, and our independence (in terms of hardware ownership because.... Well. Y'all know. )

I guess my tl;dr is it's not truly worth it.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

No, never.

Mostly because it's illegally trained, a fact that is very often just overlooked. Because you know, there are no other easy options. Don't let them keep sticking to different rules.

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