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Hello! I never used *arr stack, and was interested into it, but one thing is stopping me. I see a lot of articles like how it is Netflix (or any other ONLINE theater) replacement, but as I see it is not online. I see two big factors that stops me from trying seerr + jellyfin (and other stuff in between):

  1. You have two switch between those apps to search and then watch.
  2. You can't watch media before it's completely downloaded.

I imagine sitting on coach, searching for show. Then you want to watch some, and then you have to wait half an hour for full episode (or even season?) to download. And then you can realize that you not into it and have to repeat all the steps above. Is my expectation correct? Please don't consider this as negative opinion. Just want to know what to expect. I remember an app called "popcorn time" that does not have that flaws.

UPD: Thanks for replies guys! I read it all. I will deploy the stack some day, but right now I will keep my current setup (which is qbittorent-nox, some public web jackett instance local for my country, and just simple smb shared folder). I also have some selfhosted debris alternative torrserver for times I don't have enough space to download full show.

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[–] retry1203@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Since I started using Jellyfin and arr, searching and watching have become separate activities. Gone is the experience where I discover something and am watching it immediately. And, search/discovery is done on separate apps than where I watch. So my behaviour has changed. I think ahead. I keep any eye out for what people are watching and download what seems good to me. The payoff is I'm not limited to what's on any particular platform and I don't pay subscription fees.

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago

I think this is the last hurdle with the arr setup: discoverability. Plex has tried to jam in something, but it's far from good. They're never going to produce a pirate watchlist, so it would have to fall to Jellyfin. What people are seeking is the Netflix experience of "curated" content, spoonfed, and instantly watchable.

For the record I do the same as you. I think the intentionality is a healthy barrier to mindless browsing and consumption, but once people are hooked, it's hard to wean them off.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 68 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You're right, it's for building a private library, not a "what's new to watch now" stream. There are other tools for that, like stremio or real-debrid.

[–] Zikeji@programming.dev 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Once you adjust it works well. The whole "find something at random to watch" paradigm is not really how *arr works, but if a coworker mentions a show I can have it ready when I get home.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 4 points 1 day ago

*arr works just fine with “find something random to watch” if you set it up that way with lists.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You can connect your *arr profiles to monitor external lists of new titles by pointing the list manager to something like MDBList. They might not be as instantaneous as you might like, with a 24hr refresh period, but it's pretty much a 0.99:1 Netflix replacement for me

[–] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am struggling with this aspect. I have a list there (they call them "filters" and I struggled with that too, lol), but it (radarr) does not seem to detect the new titles I put in it my list. I am sooo close. The mdblist site is difficult for me to parse (UI and nomenclature) and I get frustrated whenever I try and fix it. So, I still just jot the title down on a scrap of paper and feel like a caveman. [shrug]

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hmmm, sorry to hear that. What kinds of lists are you trying to make? Are you making sure to "enable" the filter when creating it in Radarr?

I tried making a "new film" filter to list higher rated films with sufficient votes. Then I created a normal "new" filter just to add titles to as a seperate test. One I linked with Trakt and the other I didn't b/c I wasn't sure at the time where I would scrape with radarr. And I also created a list from one in the community. Partly to see if I could point radarr to it (don't think you can), and also I could just manually peruse and add titles myself. I am sure I've pointed to one of my lists, but am not in front of my server atm to check again.

I'm a tech guy, but every so often I run into some tech that is very foreign to my mind and it tough to latch onto. The mdblist site does that to me. Getting older too, so I am sure I am losing mental elasticity. Anyways, I thank you for replying and any help you might offer. Cheers!

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[–] brewery@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago

Depending on your download speed, you can manually download a TV show episode in seconds to minutes. By the time you watch that episode, at least the next one will be ready. It is quite rare to have to do this though, me and my family mostly add shows on Seer when we find them (recommendations, adverts, etc) and by the time we've sat down to watch it'll be ready.

I did the whole lists thing others have mentioned but to be honest, we found there was too much choice, lots of crap and quickly ran out of space. Taking an active role in choosing shows and films works better for us and I'll have a short list at any time to watch.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Firstly, the core *arr suite is not a streaming service, whatsoever. It's a media file manager meant to help with running a private server streaming app, like Plex or Jellyfin. With that out of the way:

I imagine sitting on coach, searching for show. Then you want to watch some, and then you have to wait half an hour for full episode (or even season?)

Download speeds depend on your own setup. IMO, a Usenet connection is the only way to use *arr. Downloads happen at the maximum speed and don't rely on some other person's seed rate. You, conversely, don't need to worry about seeding.

When you manually add a show to Sonarr, you can select it to only pick up the pilot episode of the show, which would cut down on DL times. You can also select a lower definition. With Usenet and something like a 720p quality, there's no reason why this should take more than 5 minutes to be in your library.

I'll also paste my comment I left below about connecting to lists:

You can connect your *arr profiles to monitor external lists of new titles by pointing the list manager to something like MDBList. They might not be as instantaneous as you might like, with a 24hr refresh period, but it’s pretty much a 0.99:1 Netflix replacement for me

I'll also add that I'm not some CompSci nerd, either, so don't be scared to give it a shot. My server runs off Plex on my Windows 10 desktop because I don't know how to do any better but I've never had an issue watching what I want to watch

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Anyone has a good tutorial on how to setup a complete are stack with docker on Linux?

Already one that quickly explains what arr does what would be helpful. I know there is radarr, sonarr, bazarr and loads more and I have no idea which system does what or how to connect them.

I've found tutorials about individual pieces, but those are of little help

And then the biggest one: I have jellyfin, I'd like to use it over the internet, bit I need to have that obviously VERY safe. How to do that? I know of a popular reverse proxy for those things (name escapes me for a sec) but again, the tutorials I've found were lacking at best.

I'm looking for something where I can write a bunch of docker files and start it all up from scratch on Linux, is that possible?

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

For internet access Plex is by far the easiest. You can use Jellyfin but it can be a lot more effort and can be brittle. Tailscale might be a solution but if you want to share with friends it would mean giving them access to your Tailscale network. Then you've got reverse proxies like Nginx Reverse Proxy. This would require buying a domain and configuring something like Cloudflare too, plus port forwarding on your router. Tailscale offers a publically accessible domain now which is similar but you cannot configure the TLD. Still, you're opening an internet accessible port for a FOSS application and this is far less secure unless you know what you're doing.

[–] raxen001@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You can go with this tutorial - https://trash-guides.info/

docker images are available for the arr stack at https://www.linuxserver.io/our-images

  • radarr - movies
  • sonarr - tv series / anime
  • prowlarr - searches torrent
  • bazarr - to download subtitles

radarr and sonarr asks prowlarr to search torrents

then radarr and sonarr asks qbittorrent to download the torrents

jellyfin grabs metadata and shows them for you. if you have seerr installed it manages searches with radarr and sonarr.

[–] SpacePirate@feddit.nu 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can recommend Yet Another Media Server the only down side is that you won't really learn how to use and manage containers (docker or podman). But this solution is quick and easy it also helps setup a qbittorent container with a VPN. For downloading Linux ISOs. ;D

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[–] habitualcynic@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

This was such a great starting point for me! I second this recommendation.

I used this to learn and build a “proof of concept” on an old raspberry pi before buying anything new.

[–] BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Your expectation is absolutely correct, and I often find myself looking at my current Jellyfin collection and have absolutely nothing I want to watch.

SuggestArr tries to fill this hole by automatically downloading content similar to what you already have, but I have yet to deploy it. (note that its development seems aided by LLMs and it has "AI" powered features)

[–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I already use Jellyseerr (recently renamed Seerr) but it does not resolves my "what to watch?" issue.

[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My wife hates Jellyfin. When the whole world's media is at her fingertips, she gets choice paralysis. She finds it easier for Netflix to serve up a small number of suggestions and just pick from there, even they're all crap suggestions.

Ive found it so much better to disconnect from suggestion algorithms. I'm much more intentional with what I watch. I never run out of things to watch. I bookmark movies and TV shows from organic suggestions from friends, family and Lemmy, or from podcasts, critic reviews, my followed YouTube channels, etc. Everything on my Jellyfin is curated content that I want to watch.

To help combat this I've created numerous collections in Plex based on commonly shared traits like genre, actors, directors, release decade, holidays and placed these collections at the top of my library. You can even find artwork for all this stuff on The Poster DB. I also make sure to put sequels into their own collections and separate animated TV/movies from all the live action stuff (four separate libraries) to further reduce the wall of choices.

I find the suggestions on Seerr not always very relevant, but it definitely functions as a "what to watch?" service for my needs.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah it is, because you can just set it up to automatically download whatever you want if that’s what you prefer. You can just set up lists to watch for content that matches certain criteria. I’m sure there is even one that would mirror Netflix.

[–] gravitas@lem.ugh.im 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Its possible to have seerr search integrated into the main jellyfin search.

Streaming torrents popcorn or stremio style is not very practical and never has been. Popcorntime still has working forks and stremio works with jellyfin to some degree but unless you also use a paid debrid service or maybe if you dont care about tanking your ratio on a private tracker There are jusy way better solutions: like using either an on demand iptv service inside jfin that costs about the same as debrid anyway but also gets you live tv.

Not to say there isnt tons of room for improvement still, but a lot of progress is being made. I suggest to folx if jellyfin doesnt meet your standards yet, try back in a year and see how much progress gets made.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Friend, how do I do Seerr in Jellyfin? Could you post a link?

[–] SpacePirate@feddit.nu 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I did this by using Seer and Jellyfin Enhanced Plugin. Also here is a list of Jellyfin plugins

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Beautiful. Thank you!

[–] minoche@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

The whole point of the arrs is to download things in advance. Many users set up Import Lists.. There are also apps like Boxarr.

Netflix's model is to provide the cheapest, low-quality media you can bear to watch. The kind of browsing you are describing is your distressed search to find something watchable. If you populate a server with good TV or at least TV that interests you, you won't want to hop between media like that.

[–] Konraddo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Any reason not using Streamio?

[–] lewiks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Stremio does not download the media for offline viewing. It is a great stepping stone before setting up a stack.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago

Yes and no. You need to understand that no home service truly replaces Netflix, for a few reasons (the media might not be available on any of the services you're using, for example).

It's also not as simple as searching for a media in Jellyfin/Plex (or whatever other media frontend you choose, like Emby). There's a fixed flow.

But let's start by explaining the layers:

  1. The frontend - Plex/Jellyfin/Emby/Kodi. This is what your users see, aka the "Netflix experience" - open the app, and all the media available on your storage device will be shown. Then they can click one and play it.

  2. The request manager - Seerr (previously Overseerr/Jellyseerr). This is a separate interface where your users can request media. You still need to manually accept it (unless you set it up to automate things fully, but make sure you trust your users!). If something isn't available, your users will come here and ask for it, then the manager will show the status (requested, accepted, downloading, available). Once available, your users can watch it through the frontend.

  3. The media managers - Radarr/Sonarr/Lidarr/etc. This is the software responsible for keeping a list of media you want, regularly looking them up on torrent trackers, Usenet servers, etc., and matching your requirements (resolution, language, encoding, file size, and so on), then grabbing the release and passing it on to the download client.

When you accept a request in the request manager, it passes on the info to the media manager, which adds the requested media to its internal list and begins looking for it.

  1. Download client - torrent/Usenet downloader (qBittorrent, sabnzbd, etc.) pretty straightforward, this thing takes an incoming download request from the media manager, and downloads the file according to protocol, then signals the manager that the download is ready.

At this point, control is passed back onto the media manager, which finds the freshly downloaded file, copies/moves it to the right place according to settings, renames it according to settings, marks it done then sends a signal to the request manager to indicate the request was fulfilled.

Finally, the media frontend, which is set up to watch the folder where the new media items are copied/moved and renamed, gets a notification that a new file is available, scans it, prepares metadata (poster, background image/music, description, actor and production lists, ratings, etc.), and makes it available in the search interface.


So the key differences with Netflix are:

  • limited content compared to Netflix
  • the ability to request new media
  • no CDNs, so if you have lots of users and not much bandwidth/processing power (latter in case of transcoding), your users will struggle. A standard home server and internet connection can serve 3-4 users at the same time.
  • limited language support. since these are pirated media, and most pirated media has at most 2-3 audio tracks, you'll lose that Netflix perk of having 6-8-10 audio tracks available. subtitles can be supplemented though (audio tracks too but they rarely match perfectly to the video so it's not as simple as downloading a file and call it a day).

That about covers all the functional differences between an arr stack and Netflix.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Aside from the point that Jellyfin is meant to browse your own personal collection of files usually after the fact...

Some file formats like mkv do work even if partially downloaded, so if you're downloading a torrent for a free libre open source movie, choose the option to download chunks in sequential order, and I think there's a way that you can watch while downloading.

[–] mittyta@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's a very good point! I use it sometimes manually on qbittorent. Can it be done automatically for all downloads on qbittorent?

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://github.com/qbittorrent/qBittorrent/issues/164

TIL it has purposely not been implemented by the main developers in over a decade for ideological reasons. There are scripts and forks to enable it by default.

[–] mittyta@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

Wow, that's the most valuable link in this comment section!

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My media server has more shit I want to watch on it than Netflix does, it's not even close. Yeah it took some time to build my library but it's paid off. Even starting out just queue up a bunch of shit ahead of time and it will be ready to go when you go to watch it. I personally watch shows through the week as they take longer to get through and are more adaptable to the amount of free time I have. Then I queue up any new movies for the weekend and new shows as I hear about them. It's not difficult to stay ahead of the curve with some minimal planning. My backlog will take me months to get through. Also your media library will never remove shit before you're done and you're not limited to just what the streaming services you have are currently offering.

[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Same here, every now and then I browse IMDB/TMDB for future releases and request them in Seerr. Then sometime later they just appear in Jellyfin and Plex. There's always more than I can get through.

[–] tae_glas@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i can use the searchbar on jellyfin & if it's not already there, i can request it using jellyseer within that same search bar, so it's possible to integrate the two somehow.

i'm afraid i'm not sure of the specifics though, i'm only using a friend's jellyfin 🫣

[–] freeman@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

probably a jellyfin plugin which then hooks into the seerr service

[–] h3ron@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

At least for me your argument is invalid.

  1. I installed Wholphin on my TV and it's both a jellyfin and an (experimental) jellyseer client
  2. Here in Europe I have fast internet, so downloading the whole file is not really a problem. Also I configured my arr stack to prefer a certain size (on the smaller side) for each resolution.
  3. I remapped my Netflix button to Wholphin
[–] Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

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NAS Network-Attached Storage
Plex Brand of media server package
VPN Virtual Private Network

3 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 6 acronyms.

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[–] IpsumLauren@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Watch the trailers first ;)

[–] mittyta@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, that's enough for me in 90% times. But does seerr provide such feature? Because I don't see trailers in last two videos about *arr stack I watched on YouTube.

[–] freeman@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
  1. You can request in Seer and after downloading click the "Watch on Jellyfin"-Button, which then leads you to the movie. So its technically two separate services but feel like one. (With Seerr, Prowlarr, Radarr, a Downloading Client, Jellyfin and Bazarr its actually many selfhosted services but it doesnt feel like it.)

  2. With my setup through Radarr I need to download the whole movie. For series it depends it also meeds to download one whole file, then it goes through sonarr and then gets sorted properly into the library with metadata and coverimage and so on.

So yes, I cannot sit down and then decide spontaniously what to watch. But I currently dont work like that: I hear about a good movie somewhere, add it to the library. Then, after 10' to 2 days (depending on how popular it is) its downloaded. When I sit down because I have time to watch something, I then browse through the library, which I all know, that they are good and interesting movies.

If I have friends over, I ask, what they wanna watch, request it and we eat dinner and afterwards we watch the movie.

[–] dallen@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

Quality is so much better than streamed, even over fiber. Also, having the everything-library is killer.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Closest thing to streaming is Kodi + Umbrella + Premiumize (or other debrid). Search for Movies or Shows in Umbrella and stream immediately, once it scrapes and you pick a source/resolution.

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