I wonder how long models will stay stable if the code they're trained on becomes increasingly ai generated
Fuck AI
"We did it, Patrick! We made a technological breakthrough!"
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AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.
I have tried installing and running a huge variety of games, using Lutris, over the years. Multiple distros too.
None of them have ever worked. Not a single one.
I'm tired boss
Turns out GloriousEggroll who is best known for Nobara and GE-Proton is defending this shit as well.
Source
This kind of thinking is what makes billionaires who back AI companies to keep increasing their investments in AI Capex, while leaving others with nothing but increasingly expensive parts and damaged environments.
oh yes. i caught their comment on github about this already.
if i had the time i'd fork this and block AI contributions outright. slop certainly doesn't belong in something that allows us linux users to play something that's windows exclusive, cause lord knows what it'll break.
It's really hard to argue against that final paragraph though for real. These are free time projects that people spend time on for the benefit of others. I dunno. Food for thought?
Yes the mere existence of slop machines is totally forcing those developers to shit all over their painstakingly crafted creations and deliberately hiding it. Really hard to argue with that.
If its such a bother to create something without supporting these fascist enabling and thieving cunts that are all AI companies, maybe they should consider not doing anything at all.
"We live in a capitalist hellscape so why bother to struggle against it" isn't a completely unreasonable take. Too bad, though.
Can't win a fight if you don't fight.
Also standing together is the only way to win such a fight as one against the hellscape we're facing.
Fork it and maintain it yourself then. That's the beauty of FOSS. I would argue if more people learned to code everytime someone complained about AI use by FOSS project maintainers and contributed (code, bug reports, q&a, community engagement) to the projects they care about, maybe less maintainers will be looking to use LLMs.
Oh my god but coding seriously sucks. I studied it when I was in college getting my networking degrees. And dear God I hate to code so so much.
Then don't? It's not a call to action for people like you lol
I mean it was a general consensus. So many people hate the code so many people can't understand how to code and so many people never want to code. So just in general saying I wish more people would learn how to code and more people should be coding is kind of a moot point. Those people that really want to code and like to code are already the people that are doing it. The rest of us that either hate the code or don't want the code have to be incredibly careful about people like this that are being disingenious with their code base.
I mean it was a general consensus. So many people hate the code so many people can’t understand how to code and so many people never want to code
then they should do something else.
There are enough people who don't hate it. love it, in fact
But if you started to get involved there would be more eyes and hands on the code which would reduce the use of AI for that purpose.
You don't have to code, you can help by
- writing documentation
- artwork for a mascot or logo
- answering questions from people dealing with bugs
- voicing your interest in features and discussions with design and direction in the project
- helping organize things
- manage ci/cd
None of those require coding skills but are still needed for a FOSS project. So let's all get to contributing! I expect to see your PR soon!!

My regret is I have but one upvote to give.
I always found Lutris to be troublesome at best. Always had better luck with Bottles.
From reading the posted threads the Lutris devs have even bigger red flags, the AI usage seems like just another symptom of their total disdain for the users of their program.
Work well in porn games. Never managed to make custom maid 3d run on bottle. But it run on lutris
heroic launcher works pretty well too
Can a motherfucker get a break, PLEASE.
I use Lutris for games that don't work in Steam/Proton, usually an older game like Black and White 2 or the old Sims 2 game (before the updated version came out). Why is everything I like turning to shit! :(
Try Heroic or Bottles. I am personally a fan of Bottles.
Hell, it’s not even everything I like is turning to shit. Things I already hate are getting worse as well. It’s fucking everything. Either AI or ads. Shareholders above all.
I used lutris for a while but jumped ship to bottles as soon as it existed as I found the UI more tolerable even though it has that gnome app look I don't really like. Then I switched to heroic which can also handle semi manual wine prefixes with whatever wine or proton variant I want or need, without all the extraneous handholding or terminology renaming.
Can it even still call itself open source when it is entirely unclear where the AI they used took the code from, and under what license it was published?
What even does using AI regurgitated code do to the license of a software product? Because basically what they are doing is exactly the same as going through shit tons of comments on stackoverflow and copying them verbatim into the code base. Without attribution or regard to licensing.
What shit.
Supreme Court recently declined to take a major copyright case involving AI, which meant the previous court's ruling still stands - ai generated content can't be copyrighted. Tho I haven't looked at the details, so I'm not sure if that applies to code or not.
It will not surprize me if everyone currently depending on these systems is going to be in for a very rude awakening.
Sloptris
That's funny, not long ago people were giving me shit for saying Lutris is a confusing, unintuitive mess.
Well I guess now we know why.
Unfortunately, it is the only way my SO got paint tool SAI 2 with pen pressure working under Linux..
Well that certainly is an edge case scenario.
I would hazard a guess that it ... should be possible to get it working through another way of setting up WINE/Proton, if you can get all the dependencies and specifics figured out... maybe via Bottles?
But, figuring all that out would be a hassle, and may just end up not working.
I mean, if it works, it works.
The closest thing to that that I can say is that via RetroDeck on Bazzite, on a Steam Deck, I literally accidentally discovered that the touch screen controls for that worked just fine, without me doing anything beyond normal RetroDeck setup.
Just got annoyed, assuming that I couldn't use a DS/3DS second screen monitor as a touch screen, 'Boy I sure with is could just-' .. and then I poked it, and then it worked.
But thats probably a different ballpark than getting an windows program to play nice with a linux touch/pad/stylus.
No, it was a confusing intuitive mess with tons of broken toggles for legacy cruft long, long before AI code was a thing.
You know what's great about open source software?
You can fork it and turn it into your own project. With black jack and hookers.
Someone can, I certainly don't have the time or the talent to do so. Thanks for your efforts people who do this stuff.
Have you tried using AI