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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43965516

It is worth noting that both the hardware and software of Fairphone is heavily dependent on a Chinese company T2Mobile.

For those looking to avoid both US and Chinese companies, then the Jolla phone is the way to go.

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[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 12 minutes ago

They have a "fair labor" agreement with China so that it is as ethically sourced as possible. People can't just get anything somewhere else. They are at least trying.

[–] itistime@infosec.pub 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Avoiding Chinese companies is a factor for me, BUT if the choice is between a Chinese company that wouldn’t comply with a five-eyes data request vs one that would, then I would definitely prefer my data be stolen by a foreign country that doesn’t see me as a sovereign risk

[–] how_we_burned@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 hours ago

Chinese company who has to comply with the CCP is a problem for me, and my work.

[–] aproposnix@scribe.disroot.org 34 points 6 hours ago (5 children)

I got my gen 6 a few days ago with /e/os installed. I definitely don't regret it.

[–] mapu@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 hour ago

Do you use Google Play? Any (banking) apps that don't work?

[–] blinfabian@feddit.nl 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

same, but installing a different launcher is sadly mandatory as the default is ass

[–] aproposnix@scribe.disroot.org 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Not a big deal for me as I customize every phone that I own anyway, so for me I'm just using Lawnchair and that works perfectly for me even on this phone so I don't see an issue with it.

[–] Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Are tutorials to do this available?

[–] sockenklaus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

Installing a new launcher? Just install it from the app store and then activate as your default launcher in androids app settings. It's just that simple.

[–] Thorgrem@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

Nice. How does it work compared to Android? Do all apps work (bank, government, shops and so on)?

[–] UNY0N@lemmy.wtf 17 points 5 hours ago

I have eOS on the fairphone 5, and I have had zero problems with banking apps and the like.

That doesn't mean you won't have problems though, I don't use many of those kinds of apps other than a bank authentication app, and a few others for public transit tickets, etc. I also live in europe, milage may vary elsewhere.

Keep in mind that eOS IS android, just with google telemetry removed. You can add a google account if you want/need to, at which point any android app should work as expected. That of course defeats the purpose somewhat, but even then eOS will still help you stay as private as possible by informing you about app trackers and using alternative services for location, etc.

[–] 18107@aussie.zone 9 points 5 hours ago

Fairphone 6

My bank app will install, but I can't login unless I also install Google Play Services. The website works fine without.

No issues with other apps. I do prioritise installing from F-Droid whenever possible.

[–] illi@piefed.social 6 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Not /e/OS user, but it is Android - just degoogled. Uses microG as a replacement for Google services if I'm not mistaken.

As for apps, I recommend checking out an app called Plexus on Fdroid - it's an app where people report how apps work on alternative ROMs with either microG or fully degoogled. It's pretty neat.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Thanks for the info and I am going to order a Fairphone this week.

[–] Tramdan@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Surely without Google services it's AOSP. Android trademarked by Google.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

/e/ (also known as /e/ OS and /e/OS, formerly Eelo) is a fork of LineageOS, an Android-based mobile operating system,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%2Fe%2F_%28operating_system%29

[–] aproposnix@scribe.disroot.org 3 points 4 hours ago

My bank app worked. I was very happy about it. My metro pass app also installed without issue and transferred my pass. Even government apps worked. Microg is useful for sure.

[–] ottieplod@feddit.org 7 points 6 hours ago
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[–] LemmyEntertainYou@piefed.social 10 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Let's hope the growth means the software improves. I've never owned such a buggy phone. I would never be able to recommend anyone I know actually buy one and it's pretty difficult to keep using it myself. I'm really hoping the upcoming Android 16 release fixes a lot of bugs but if past Fairphones are anything to go by I'm not expecting much.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago (5 children)

I've been using a FP6 for over a month and I have no idea what you could be referring to

[–] aproposnix@scribe.disroot.org 12 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, same here. If I had to highlight a negative, its the poor placement of the volume keys, esp, because I'm left handed.. But the positives far outweigh the one annoyance. I love this thing. I fwwl like it's actually mine, and not just locked down.

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[–] Gamechanger@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 hours ago

Fairphone 5 for ~ 1 1/2 years. Not a single bug encountered...

[–] LemmyEntertainYou@piefed.social 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Sometimes after using the camera, the taken photos will just disappear.

Often my screen will freeze up and the ohone becomes entirely unresponsive until I turn the screen off and on again.

Sometimes the screen won't even turn on at all and will then suddenly unlock and register every single swipe and tap I made on the off screen registers at once.

Then sometimes when idle the phone will just randomly crash and reboot.

A genuinely awful experience I have to say.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Weird. Which model and OS is this happening on?

[–] LemmyEntertainYou@piefed.social 2 points 3 hours ago

Fairphone 6, stock Android 15.

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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

You can install iode on a Fairphone. I was using iode for years without issues. I would be surprised if it had many bugs specific to Fairphone.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

That's awesome to hear! I'm currently running iode on a OnePlus11 and the built-in firewall and metwork monitoring is awesome! I don't even use the paid version. Maybe I'll give fairphone a try next.

[–] LemmyEntertainYou@piefed.social 1 points 5 hours ago

I might have to give it a try. I used CalyxOS on my old Pixel 7 and loved it so I'm hoping that will be an option once they're back up and running.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

the Jolla phone is the way to go

Are there any downsides to this? There has to be, right.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Are there any downsides to this? There has to be, right.

SailfishOS userland is proprietary software. AOSP is more open than SailfishOS. The Android compatibility layer of SailfishOS is based on AOSP, so the stack to get the most important 3rd party apps working relies as much on AOSP as any Android ROM.

Upside of SailfishOS: There is a decent chance that the upcoming Linux ARM version of Steam + Proton will run directly on that device.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 12 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I mean the downsides are it's Linux. That's not without it's upsides but the downsides are huge.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Would a phone have that many downsides? I would think that a computer would have much more. Maybe the phone companies don't play nice? I 100% don't know what the downsides would be.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 13 points 7 hours ago (16 children)

From my research, the phone part of the "phone" doesn't work very well. Which is a pretty big caveat.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 5 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I have one. It has no issues with calling, video, ect...

It works in the states as well. And all apps too. I guess my only complaint is parts are getting hard to come by for fairphone 4. Which is why i bought the phone, to be repairable.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 7 points 6 hours ago

We were discussing Jolla, not fairphone

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 3 points 6 hours ago

Oh wait sorry for some reason the interface didnt load the first comment. I dodnt see the context. Woops!

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[–] Mihies@programming.dev 2 points 5 hours ago

Like Android you mean?

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 2 points 6 hours ago

I think I bought one, but I'm not sure. I might have been very drunk back then.

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

On the first one there were limitations on the android emulation stack. Not sure how they managed afterwards on later OS releases or how it will go with newer ones.

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