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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43965516

It is worth noting that both the hardware and software of Fairphone is heavily dependent on a Chinese company T2Mobile.

For those looking to avoid both US and Chinese companies, then the Jolla phone is the way to go.

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean the downsides are it's Linux. That's not without it's upsides but the downsides are huge.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Would a phone have that many downsides? I would think that a computer would have much more. Maybe the phone companies don't play nice? I 100% don't know what the downsides would be.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

From my research, the phone part of the "phone" doesn't work very well. Which is a pretty big caveat.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have one. It has no issues with calling, video, ect...

It works in the states as well. And all apps too. I guess my only complaint is parts are getting hard to come by for fairphone 4. Which is why i bought the phone, to be repairable.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 11 points 1 day ago

We were discussing Jolla, not fairphone

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago

Oh wait sorry for some reason the interface didnt load the first comment. I dodnt see the context. Woops!

[–] aegg@europe.pub -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where did you get that from? I have been using one for the past 6 months without any calling issues.

[–] artyom@piefed.social -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

It was a common complaint I came across when researching a few different Linux devices.

I guess if you're not having issues I must be wrong, because everyone's experiences should mirror yours exactly.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 2 points 17 hours ago

It has improved a lot through subsequent releases. It also depends on which phone it is running on. On my Xperia XA2 with licensed SailfishOS at the latest version, there are no issues with calls and SMS. It does not support VoLTE, but it is a non-issue in Europe.

[–] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s the main thing you’re buying it for…

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Well, are you? I can’t remember the last conversation I had over phone.

[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm with you - I'd pay extra for a phone that doesn't take calls just so I can force everyone to just send it as a text.

[–] baronvonj@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

could you not just get a data-only SIM?

[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 1 day ago

Just delete all your phone apps and then you won't get anymore phone calls. Bing bang boom.

Yes. Especially with work, although not necessarily with my personal phone, it does happen.

Also, it’s a 650 Euro, £562, device….i don’t want to buy it and some parts don’t work.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm on the phone all day. Believe it or not some people are different from you 🤯

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Goes both ways, I'd be happy if more calls would simply fail midway.

"What a shame, better write an e-mail."

[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Goes both ways

No one was arguing the other way...

"What a shame, better write an e-mail."

Ah yeah, I love writing emails back and forth for 5 days to do what could be accomplished in a 5 minute phone call.

[–] pfr@piefed.social 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

The future of industry is doomed with gen z being militantly unwilling to take a phone call. But I am holding onto some hope because I hear they're also spearheading the CD music revival, so I just hope they also recognise the retro-coolness of telecommunication.

Otherwise, the art of verbal communication will die. People will meet and connect via text, only to be completely overwhelmed when they meet irl and have to talk to one another face to face. But social life is inconsequential. However, at the end of the day, if you can't talk on the phone for the purpose of business communication, your just a fucking pussy.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We clearly have different communication partners. Most of the issues of mine are solved by them thinking about it. Writing an e-mail forces them to.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

WTF is a "communication partner"?

Anything you email me gets lots in a sea of bullshit imploding in my inbox. Just send me a text if it's not urgent or doesn't require discussion or you just don't like me.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Anything you email me gets lots in a sea of bullshit imploding in my inbox.

that sounds like a different, bigger issue.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Nope, it's the same issue. Your calls are not lost in my inbox.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

no. the issue is that your inbox is full of unclassified spam

[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 6 hours ago

Weird, my phone isn't full of unclassified spam.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well the way you write I'm not surprised people don't like you.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

LOL because yours was so much nicer?

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago
[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It also isn't as performant for the price, or so I've heard. They're working on it, but it isn't up to par with big name companies.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What does that mean to you? I hear people say this all the time about various devices but I haven't come across anything my phone couldn't run in over a decade. I haven't had a flagship or top tier phone in that whole time either. Are you talking about actual functionality issues or just theoretical stuff and benchmarks?

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] artyom@piefed.social -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Android is technically doing just fine.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I don't understand what that's supposed to mean.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

That it doesn't have huge downsides.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 9 hours ago

Of course it does. Google is increasingly locking down the platform. In 6 months you won't even be able to sideload software anymore without Google's permission.