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Under 3% I'll take the longest loan I can... It's free money. Above 6 it's a perpetual loss. 4 or 5 is borderline.
That's a crazy decision to make. I own my car outright thankfully. In the future once my car is used up and completely in the green as an investment to commute to work, I'm going to consider leasing a very modern electric vehicle for 2 years.
HOLY SHIT.
84 months!
We are going to continue to drive our 16 year old car and 8 year old car around for a while longer, I hope. I cannot imagine paying for a car for 7 years, damn.
My previous car I did 60 months at 0%. They were offering, I knew I'd drive it that long, so why not.
And for a solid five months I had no car loan to pay!
HOLY SHIFT.
You don't have to get an 84 month loan. We just did a 48 month loan on my wife's new car. The trick is, buy within your means and don't roll negative equity into your new loan.
Yes, that's so true. I remember coming into a small amount of money and had been saving a little bit, and had just paid off a ridiculously long car loan on a used car - still one of the dumbest financial decisions I had made in my youth - 5.5 years on a used car, WTF was I even thinking, LOL.
Anyway, I was itching to buy some new car possibly, as I had never bought new. Someone handed me a book about finances and the author reiterated what my parents had always tried to drill into my head - about the only worthwhile debt is real estate.
For cars, he had this notion of "paying yourself" the car payment once you pay off a car. Do that for many years, and use that savings for your next car, preferably used, about 2 or 3 years old, after which the depreciation has had the steepest drop.
So I skipped buying something new or used. For so many reasons, I am glad my co-worker lent me that book at that particular time.
What book?
This one - Live Debt Free, by Ted Carroll
https://archive.org/details/livedebtfreemake00carr
Even reading this in the early 00s was kinda wild when it came to some of the talk of house prices. Most of the principles still hold, though, especially when it comes to deferring gratitude and so on.
The notion of moving somewhere low-cost is probably more relevant than ever, though, given the idea of remote work having been broken wide open because of Covid. Prior to that, most companies viewed it as something slightly scandalous to even ask about.
They're bundling and selling these loans off just like they did real estate up until 2008. When it all exploded in their faces.
I'm jacked, jacked to the tits.
Mine's 18 years old. Aside from some clear coat chips, she drives great. No need for a new car. I plan to drive this car til the wheels fall off.
New cars cost what a house used to cost. 7 year loan is wild.
In the future instead of renting an apartment you will rent a parking space and P.O. Box so that you can sleep in your car. The laundromat and showers might be included or they might be pay per use.
you need an address to rent a PO box
My parents were crazy apocalypse preppers, the first 10 years of my life we lived in tents and vans, they had PO boxes the entire time. It's not exactly nuclear-bunker level security.
Also, commenter above hypothesizing a new housing/living regime entirely which doesn't seem that far off tbh.
From the USPS. But there are other places like the UPS Store that don't have that restriction.
New cars are the house
Yeah, and pay hasn't gone up for over 20 years
CEO pays have. Everyone else ... not so much.
It's like every car salesman next to a military base spread to the whole country like an invasive species...
Well, some do.
Now, these alarming average new car prices aren't indicative of pricing across body styles and brands; KBB data shows consumer choice was in no small part behind the increase, as the number of full-size trucks hit a five-year high through the end of 2025. U.S. buyers purchased over 233,000 full-size trucks in the fourth quarter of 2025, at an average price of $66,386. Similarly, the average EV sat around $58,034 through the end of 2025, further driving up the average new-vehicle transaction price.
A new Camry is $30k, half that.
Who are these people buying all these vehicles? I would NEVER consider spending that much on a car and I make decently above what the average household does...
$66k? For transportation?! I'm on year 11 of owning my 3 year pre-used car...
If they're offering 0% for 132 months, I'm doing it.
Especially as cars do come with 7 or more years of warranty, like KIA.
If you give me 0% for more than 5 years? Sure, I'll take it. Our EV is 2021 model, I'm in no rush to sell it. I'll reach the mileage warranty unfortunately before the timed one.
No sympathy for modern car buyers. There are almost no limits on size at the moment. Things have gone way out of reasonable limits. We need to strike down vehicle size limits by a huge amount.
To elaborate on the no sympathy part, most new vehicle on the road are oversized. For example, SUV death wagons, and the odd clown truck bringing their 6 wheeler for a lettuce and bread trip to whatever other spot dealing with their misery.
