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Folks, CALM DOWN, this is still in the workshopping phase ok? First we bomb them, then we workshop WHY we bombed them, do you not understand the plan!?

Democrats, predictably, were apoplectic. “There was no imminent threat to the United States of America by the Iranians,” said Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate intelligence committee, who had received classified briefings from Rubio. “There was a threat to Israel. If we equate a threat to Israel as the equivalent of an imminent threat to the United States, then we are in uncharted territory.”


Meanwhile somewhere below decks on the Titanic 11:45 PM (ship's time) on April 14, 1912

Well, if we were to equate the threat of icebergs to an imminent threat to our ship, then we would be in uncharted territory! - a well dressed crew member with an officer's hat calmly explains to a passenger.


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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Why not open source this work to the gig economy? They should have some sort of contrivance contest for whoever can construct the most realistic bullshit excuse for why the US went to war. Winner gets paid for a day and a bag of onions.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Of the analysis I've listened to over the past days about the war in Iran, I never heard the pundits and journalists mention Epstein.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Its kinda why they did it. This sort of tactic has in the past worked for Trump when he needed to change the news cycle away from something damaging to him. It definitely works to derail mainstream coverage of corporate news.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

Going to be a long ass war then. The moment this wraps up we will be right back to Epstein.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 hours ago

The Trump War Evading Epstein (TWEE) with no way of telling if we're "winning" or "losing." I'm pretty sure we're losing if we're blowing up elementary schools.

[–] VinegarChunks@lemmus.org 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

If you state reasons for doing something that gives everyone a thing to look at to see if you are succeeding or failing.

Trump is, above all else, a master in marketing. He has complete confidence that, through marketing skills, he will be able to take credit for anything good that comes, and all failures can be either ignored or blamed on someone else.

But stating reasons up front makes it harder to do this.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

also gives them a totally arbitrary goal so they can keep going or withdraw whenever. we don't know if this will be 6 days, 6 weeks, or 6 months because there are no clear objectives to accomplish

[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Unsanctioned military operation. Not war. Illegal command from a compromised POTUS doing the work of his master.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 2 hours ago

That just seems like semantics. It seems pretty fair to call country A bombing the shit out of country B and killing its leader an act of war.

I think a lot of my fellow Americans find it easy to not think of as a "war" because they see no risk of Iran attacking the continental US. They'll just send their thoughts and prayers to whoever deployed over there catches the bullets.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It's unfortunately not illegal, but he only has 60 days.

[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 points 2 hours ago

Here's the wiki page about the War Powers Resolution of you'd like to learn more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

In my opinion what defines a war at the heart of it is that a war is a series of events that do no entangle themselves in abstracted arguments about definitions but rather form together, organically or artificially, into a violent reality abstracted from meaning.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Wasn't it because he is anointed by Jesus to be the herald of his second cumming?

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 4 points 12 hours ago

Have the war you voted for, MAGAs.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They gave a reason, it's just stupid.

Rubio said it was a preemptive strike to preempt their strike after the Israeli preemptive strike.

Kinda WW1 logic.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

Further proof trump and the republicans haven’t had an original thought in decades.

[–] DragonAce@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Well they could just tell the truth and admit it was to distract from the Epstein files.

"Operation Epstein Distraction"

[–] verdi@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 2 points 13 hours ago

It's a special military operation. Looking forward to seeing the sanctions.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The causus belli is probably somewhere in the Epstein files, let's all check them thoroughly!

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 4 points 19 hours ago

The thing is if these bombings are supposed to be distracting everyone from the tRUMP-Epstein files then why is it called Operation Epstein War?

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 53 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

This is easy one: Trump went to war to get the fact he's child rapist off the front page.

This evil man is just fine with Americans dying to divert attention from his crimes.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago

they wouldn't see consequences for the epstein stuff at all anyway

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 3 points 13 hours ago

Bibi has the kompromat.

If Bibi has a problem, Trump has a problem.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago

They are trying to cause an attack on American soil.

Why? Trump has been very clear about his unhinged plan to use martial law as an excuse to scuttle the midterms. The domestic strategies have repeatedly failed, so now he’s going for a 9/11 10/7 gambit.

Americans, you need to take out your political trash now or get out of the country. Gilead is coming.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 9 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Epitome of "shoot first, as questions later".

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[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 day ago (7 children)

The reason is, and I'll bet a lot of money on this: an LLM told them to.

[–] Wammityblam@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Not quite. Israel told them to.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (4 children)

You're both wrong.

It's because it's a distraction from Epstein. You're not talking about how trump rapes children. If we go to war, that becomes the focus. No longer putting pressure on trump over how trump rapes children. See, I have to keep typing trump rapes children, because society seems to have the memory of a goldfish, and have forgotten that trump rapes children.

Now, view every action he's done since taking office, and underatand understand that EVERYTHING is a distraction from trump raping children.

Now don't forget this time, ok?

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

None of you are wrong, this is multiple levels of stupid. The dictator wants a war so he can cancel elections, the other even more genocidal dictator wants more genocide so they cook up a plan. These morons shop it to the white supremacist running the department of WAR, and he gets a raging jesus boner at the idea. So they all sit down and ask mecha-hitler for a plan..

That’s where we are.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It’s because it’s a distraction from Epstein. You’re not talking about how trump rapes children.

I believe we're now talking about how he murders children

[–] Brickhead92@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Does he murder the children before or after he rapes them?

It's both, isn't it

[–] e0qdk@reddthat.com 11 points 1 day ago

I believe we're now talking about how he murders children

Unfortunately, yes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Minab_school_airstrike

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[–] saimen@feddit.org 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Hypothetically, if a world leader were to ask for advice on such a grave matter, the most responsible and ethical response would be to emphasize the following principles:

1. Diplomacy First

Military action should always be a last resort. Exhaust all diplomatic channels, negotiations, and international cooperation to address conflicts and protect national and global security.

2. Humanitarian and Ethical Considerations

Any decision involving military force must weigh the potential human cost—both for civilians and military personnel—and adhere to international laws, including the principles of proportionality and distinction.

3. Legal and International Obligations

The use of force is governed by international law, including the UN Charter, which permits military action only in self-defense or with Security Council authorization. Unilateral military action without just cause or legal basis risks destabilizing regions and violating international norms.

4. Strategic Consequences

Military action can have far-reaching, unintended consequences, including escalation, regional instability, and long-term geopolitical repercussions. A thorough analysis of risks, benefits, and alternatives is essential.

5. Consultation and Consensus

Engage with allies, international organizations, and domestic stakeholders to ensure any action is justified, proportional, and supported by a broad coalition.

6. Focus on Long-Term Solutions

Address root causes of conflict through economic, political, and social means to achieve sustainable peace and security.

7. Transparency and Accountability

Leaders must be accountable to their citizens and the international community, ensuring that any action is transparent, justified, and aligned with democratic values.

In any real-world scenario, such decisions require input from military, intelligence, legal, and humanitarian experts, as well as public and congressional oversight.

Would you like information on historical precedents, international law, or conflict resolution strategies? I’m here to help provide factual, unbiased insights.

[–] saimen@feddit.org 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Hypothetical Conclusion

Even under an "America First" doctrine, bombing Iran would likely be considered only if:

  • There is undeniable evidence of an imminent, severe threat to the U.S. or its core interests.
  • All other options (diplomacy, sanctions, covert action) have been exhausted or are deemed ineffective.
  • The potential benefits outweigh the risks of retaliation, regional chaos, and long-term damage to U.S. interests.

Final Thought: "America First" does not mean acting recklessly—it means prioritizing U.S. security, prosperity, and sovereignty. Military force is a tool, not a strategy, and its use must be calculated to avoid unintended consequences that could ultimately harm America’s standing and safety.

Would you like to explore historical examples (e.g., Iraq, Libya) or alternative strategies for addressing Iran’s actions?

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago

"Hey Dario Amode, your stupid AI isn't telling me what I want to hear! I demand you remove the guardrails!"

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

They bombed Iran to get people to forget that Trump and his circle are mass-scale slavers, child rapists, and traitorous foreign agents.

[–] TrippinMallard@lemmy.ml 4 points 22 hours ago

Probably quid pro quo with the saudis for more oil

[–] Arancello@aussie.zone 4 points 22 hours ago

america is now a vassal state of the israelis. america gives billions to israel. israelis get free education and healthcare. american taxpayers get cancelled healthcare, cancelled foodstamps, cancelled safety nets. why did you vote for this? i really dont get it.

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