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With some friendly fire, that's a funny term, like civil war.
-- Sage Francis
The bullets send kisses.
Holy fucking shit, the "never shot down in combat" streak of the F-15 is over?
It's not that impressive considering it came into service after Vietnam which is the last time the US faced an enemy with a real air force and effective air defenses. Not to mention the fact that the cheaper more numerous F16 has been the real work horse (and cannon fodder) of the USAF since then.
That's for air to air.
I am not aware of any F-15s having been shot down in any way before today. They blow up by themselves or snap in two sometimes but that's par for the course for any fighter jet.
Just did a quick search, and it looks like a handful were shot down during desert storm. Interestingly, 1 was shot down via sidewinder accidentally fired by a wingman during training. So, I guess the true statement should be, "never lost a dogfight?"
Thanks, I didn't know. I just sort of picked up that "never shot down" thing... like... maybe over the last few decades? And when I googled the AI vomited up all 5673 windshield incidents, etc
when was the last dogfight tho, ww1?
Vietnam had tons of them, enough to force F-4s to get gun pods since missiles were not ready.
Pretty sure there were dogfights in Iraq vs Iran and India vs Pakistan conflicts.
The lack of dogfights in USA's last wars are due to overwhelming differences in numbers leading to the weaker air force trying to avoid confrontation in general.
If stealth really works it certainly will favor dogfights versus bvr combat.
Yeah the two gulf of Sidra incidents in 1980s are the only time US pilots have seen actual "dog fighting" since Vietnam.
It's funny how each fight last seconds and only involved only two aircraft on each side but because they're the only aerial fight the US has had post-Vietnam these two incidents are treated like the Battle of Midway or something. lol
Entire fucking books have been written on them, tactical "strategies" and techniques developed on them. Even had goddamn movies (Top Gun) made to commemorate these shoot down incidents. lol
Well, in bad lighting, they can look like Venezuelan fishing boats, so ...
But hey, on the plus side, that means US tax dollars will have to be spent replacing these planes and that will increase GDP!
I am all aboard the Keynesian train, government spending stimulates the economy for sure. Could we maybe try spending the money on roads, bridges, education, healthcare, or even just a stupidly huge purposeless gigantic monument instead of engaging in fucking omnicide
lol no way bro. There's nothing more productive that an overengineered overpriced overpowered tool of destruction!
slaps roof of f-15 this baby here can fit so much omnicide in it.
Let's talk about its fuel consumption! Sixty seconds of afterburner takes more fuel that an average minivan would if it drove around the entire world.
And won't that make you feel like a MAN!? HELL yeah!
I did the calculation and not factoring any fuel, ammo or maintenance, or the missiles that shit them down, each of these planes was worth about 7,500 years of healthcare for a single person
missiles that shit them down
What a terrible way to go for those planes, though. :(
About $300 million dollars shot down.
“Oops.”
Why would the people at the top of this circus care about a measley $300M when they can just tax the poor and cut essential social services in order to expand the military budget an extra $500B?
What about the cost to train the LLM that identified the jets as targets?
That one is measured in Celsius, not dollars
Oh good I’m sure this will help lower the price of groceries and gas.
Too bad the pilots are okay.
Donald Trump's fault. All of this is his fault.
Missile striking aircraft: My tax dollars in action
Aircraft being struck by missile: Also my tax dollars in action
Aircraft downed by friendly fire: My tax dollars out of action
So how is this supposed to bring prices down again?
I don't know, but how's the DOW?
Lmao its like 48 thou
How much does a fighter jet cost? A thousand dollars?
Kuwait probably had their twitter account banned or they might have known
"""Friendly fire incident"""
Let me guess, Claude said to shoot them down.
I think that was a friendly plane
You're absolutely right, that was indeed a friendly American f-15 plane we shot down. Would you like me to make a note not to shoot friendly planes in the future? ⚡ 💪
Idiocracy in action.
Sorry, I need to clarify I mena real life idiocracy, not the the film Idiocracy which is way better than real world indeed.
Kuwait right now
I'd say "call in the clowns" but we already did that.
Disgrace of a nation.
Proper IFF and allied coordination is too woke for Petey.
They've replaced IFF with Grok so why would they need to coordinate with allies?
Great allies there.