Starmer wants them to "return to the table" but this time agree to everything with no negotiation. He's hopeful for an unconditional surrender that's not called that.
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I don't know why anyone would negotiate in good faith with amerikkka and their lapdogs, it's been proven time and time again that they use negotiations cynically & will happily abandon any deal if they think it benefits them in the short term
This last round of negotiations was especially egregious, what with Isn'treal confirming that they were purely in bad faith and that the strikes were already planned weeks out.
Starmer keeps doing and saying things that make him seem like he's a foreign agent.
UK is doing what the UK does best: being a US lapdog
The US-Israel attacks on Iran are unprovoked and criminal — and carried out while Iran was negotiating against US-Israel demands that both coloniser powers knew were impossible. This mirrors Israel’s murder of Qatari bystanders while trying to assassinate Hamas’s ceasefire negotiating team — likewise assisted by the UK.
Right now, the only new question I have is "why the Epstein coalition leads with underhanded tactics?"
Just like fighting dirty in self defense situations: if you're winning you don't need them and if you're losing you escalate the level of violence and upset the person on top of you. It's the difference between a bloody nose and mangled fingers. So if you're in a situation where the other person might have a (nuclear) weapon, they can't trust your word, and they feel threatened then that weapon has a lot higher chance of being used.
In a duel, if you threaten and pressure, pressure, pressure then they might crumble because you're using good technique. If you start by plucking at their eyes and groin then you better pray they never get the upper hand even once.
Because they have consistently seen that Iran will not fight back
I feel like the Epstein files the way everything I want to say is [REDACTED]
Fool them a third time? Seeing Iran's record of negotiating and then getting "surprise" attacked and getting their top people killed, they might just be that gullible... Never hire Iranian security if you need to protect your VIPs
Tbf, they only fell for it once. They had no way of knowing the douchebags were going to launch an attack literally during negotiations.
Happens when you’re not a blood thirsty dog of imperialism willing to turn the entire region into dust
sink England
I think Iran is at the negotiating table right now. Just a different one. The only one bullies like the US understand.
Iran will come back to the negotiation table i fear, because they keep trying to engage with the US like theyre an honest actor and the US keeps murdering their negotiators
The problem with that tactic is eventually you run out of people who fall for it, an account of killing them.
We kept killing all the people who would work with us and now all we have are enemies... how could Iran do this to us??
maybe not. RIP Ayatollah no nukes, but maybe they'll actually do the Kim playbook now and maintain sovereignty.
If the way they asked Soleimani to the negotiation table then bombed him on the way there, or the way they tore up the nuclear deal and then bombed them, or their millions of lies have not convinced the Iranians that the US is not an honest actor, why would this?
what remains to hold back the pro-nuke faction?
I have no idea, but most rational actor would have given up on nukes before either
as i understand it the refusal to nuke up was religious in nature, so you know, not a process known for rationality.
I wouldn't necessarily call it irrational - at its best, religion is a mechanism that allows humans to encompass and care for the vastness of humanity as if it were their own body.
Rejecting nuclear proliferation is, considered for the whole of humanity and above mere matters of nations or one's own life, here probably an incorrect choice and certainly idealist, I think, but* uh... Hm.
*and here I realise I'm still calling it irrational
I mean Khamenei wasn't wrong, nukes are evil
But you can be righteous and still get killed
The question is, is being righteous more important than being alive? And... yeah, sometimes it is. Is this one of the times? I don't think it's the call I would make, but I'm also not a true believing Muslim.
I don't think it's the call I would make, but I'm also not a true believing Muslim.
or his specific personal interpretation of it. Nuclear physics definitely isn't in the Koran so whatever he thought about that shit was a reflection of himself more than anything.
How can they now, lol? They've been devastated by nazi violence, they'd need to take another 30 years to rebuild their infrastructure and knowledge after Israel and US killed and destroyed everything. The time for nukes was in the early 2000s/2010s.
and the second best time for nukes is now.
there was obviously a pro-bomb faction before, i don't think that sentiment is diminished even if it's harder now.
also there should probably be something of a new international movement among non-vassal nations who want to go nuclear to maintain their sovereignty.
But how do they get them? Everything is destroyed, what will they do, just will it into existence?
is all of it destroyed?
they should return to the negotiation table with a small tactical nuke in tow
Paedoph-Isle doing Paedoph-Isle things