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[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

maybe not. RIP Ayatollah no nukes, but maybe they'll actually do the Kim playbook now and maintain sovereignty.

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If the way they asked Soleimani to the negotiation table then bombed him on the way there, or the way they tore up the nuclear deal and then bombed them, or their millions of lies have not convinced the Iranians that the US is not an honest actor, why would this?

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

what remains to hold back the pro-nuke faction?

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have no idea, but most rational actor would have given up on nukes before either

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

as i understand it the refusal to nuke up was religious in nature, so you know, not a process known for rationality.

[–] Nacarbac@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wouldn't necessarily call it irrational - at its best, religion is a mechanism that allows humans to encompass and care for the vastness of humanity as if it were their own body.

Rejecting nuclear proliferation is, considered for the whole of humanity and above mere matters of nations or one's own life, here probably an incorrect choice and certainly idealist, I think, but* uh... Hm.

*and here I realise I'm still calling it irrational

[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 14 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I mean Khamenei wasn't wrong, nukes are evil

But you can be righteous and still get killed

The question is, is being righteous more important than being alive? And... yeah, sometimes it is. Is this one of the times? I don't think it's the call I would make, but I'm also not a true believing Muslim.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 4 points 21 hours ago

I don't think it's the call I would make, but I'm also not a true believing Muslim.

or his specific personal interpretation of it. Nuclear physics definitely isn't in the Koran so whatever he thought about that shit was a reflection of himself more than anything.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

How can they now, lol? They've been devastated by nazi violence, they'd need to take another 30 years to rebuild their infrastructure and knowledge after Israel and US killed and destroyed everything. The time for nukes was in the early 2000s/2010s.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

and the second best time for nukes is now.

there was obviously a pro-bomb faction before, i don't think that sentiment is diminished even if it's harder now.

also there should probably be something of a new international movement among non-vassal nations who want to go nuclear to maintain their sovereignty.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

But how do they get them? Everything is destroyed, what will they do, just will it into existence?

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 1 points 20 hours ago

is all of it destroyed?